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Post by Stephen on Jan 17, 2018 14:22:05 GMT
A rant - The fact that聽the Republic of Ireland converted to kilometers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Drives me mad. What happened to the Irish mile? I am very lucky to live in the free six where men can only marry Women and miles are miles. 馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ
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Post by irishconfederate on Jan 17, 2018 14:27:08 GMT
Indeed very lucky. I've been joking for awhile about setting up a branch of the DUP where I live in England. My English friend thinks about what the world is coming too when an Irish Catholic nationalist can contemplate that.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jan 17, 2018 14:28:21 GMT
If I lived in the North, I would vote DUP.
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Post by cato on Mar 9, 2018 22:57:54 GMT
The (liberal) association of catholic priests are calling for Clarity on what groups are welcome to the assembly for families in Dublin later this year. Perhaps they should submit a dubia?
On a practical level I believe all family units should be strenghtened for social cohesion but the constant legal and cultural undermining of traditional marriage is deplorable. The church does have a dilemma here. She has a mission to promote marriage but is she obliged to support all family units even those who fall short of normal catholic standards? Is this an arrogant over reach? Do alternative families need or even want catholic support?
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Mar 9, 2018 23:06:20 GMT
Surely the answer should be that every PERSON is welcome to the assembly. That way, their life choices are not endorsed.
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Post by S茅amus on Sept 11, 2018 11:12:49 GMT
kj suggested we should have a "rants and raves" thread, a place where people can get things off their chest.....etc.? It's not particularly on my chest, but, on the subject of rants and raves,I thought it was a bit ridiculous for Serena Williams to start playing the sexist card to redeem and/or sanctify her American Open explosion/implosion. If men, in her and (Billie Jean King's) opinion get penalized less for shouting back at umpires, and the media has yet to find a concrete example, it actually doesn't ultimately 1) change the rules 2) have any bearing on her matches, unless, of course, she happened to be playing a man. Is it sexist to call to mind that the four Grand Slam titles give equal prize money to men and women, despite men playing five sets and women playing three?
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 11, 2018 11:32:25 GMT
kj suggested we should have a "rants and raves" thread, a place where people can get things off their chest.....etc.? It's not particularly on my chest, but, on the subject of rants and raves,I thought it was a bit ridiculous for Serena Williams to start playing the sexist card to redeem and/or sanctify her American Open explosion/implosion. If men, in her and (Billie Jean King's) opinion get penalized less for shouting back at umpires, and the media has yet to find a concrete example, it actually doesn't ultimately 1) change the rules 2) have any bearing on her matches, unless, of course, she happened to be playing a man. Is it sexist to call to mind that the four Grand Slam titles give equal prize money to men and women, despite men playing five sets and women playing three? I haven't been paying much attention to the story. I'm so tired of gender politics. A talking head on CNN claimed there was evidence to back up her claim, but...well, they would.
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Post by S茅amus on Sept 12, 2018 7:28:14 GMT
It's not particularly on my chest, but, on the subject of rants and raves,I thought it was a bit ridiculous for Serena Williams to start playing the sexist card to redeem and/or sanctify her American Open explosion/implosion....etc....Is it sexist to call to mind that the four Grand Slam titles give equal prize money to men and women, despite men playing five sets and women playing three? I haven't been paying much attention to the story. I'm so tired of gender politics. A talking head on CNN claimed there was evidence to back up her claim, but...well, they would. To prove it absolutely it have to be a concrete example of the same thing rather than a statistic. I'm sure Ms.Serena is no worse than anyone else with this, but, thinking back, she did threaten a few years ago to shove her racquet down a female umpire's throat and then shouted that wasn't she the same blonde that stuffed her up (think her exact words might have been stronger) not long before. It's obviously not racist for an afro-American to call a blonde European by her hair colour- I wonder would it have been racist the other way around? It was later noted that she actually mistook the umpire for an altogether different blonde woman from a different European country- what would the reaction have been to a European making a similar mistake? Scott Morrison has yesterday declared against gender quotas for his party. I always find it intriguing that (what amounts to) a handicap could be lauded by exponents of so-called equal rights.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 12, 2018 8:39:50 GMT
I haven't been paying much attention to the story. I'm so tired of gender politics. A talking head on CNN claimed there was evidence to back up her claim, but...well, they would. To prove it absolutely it have to be a concrete example of the same thing rather than a statistic. I'm sure Ms.Serena is no worse than anyone else with this, but, thinking back, she did threaten a few years ago to shove her racquet down a female umpire's throat and then shouted that wasn't she the same blonde that stuffed her up (think her exact words might have been stronger) not long before. It's obviously not racist for an afro-American to call a blonde European by her hair colour- I wonder would it have been racist the other way around? It was later noted that she actually mistook the umpire for an altogether different blonde woman from a different European country- what would the reaction have been to a European making a similar mistake? Scott Morrison has yesterday declared against gender quotas for his party. I always find it intriguing that (what amounts to) a handicap could be lauded by exponents of so-called equal rights. Gender quotas are ridiculous. They seem utterly unjustifiable to me. The only gender quota that makes sense is the one that progressives have increasingly done away with-- one husband, one wife, one mother, one father. I think putting any great weight on the outbursts of professional athletes is ridiculous, too. I don't care what anyone calls anyone on the pitch, court or track.
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Post by cato on Sept 12, 2018 9:05:59 GMT
A cartoonist is now being condemned for drawing an unflattering cartoon of Serena. It seems that "angry black woman"is a racist trope. Fancy that -A nasty unflattering cartoon!
Serena is a lovely name. Totally inappropriate here though.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 12, 2018 9:19:13 GMT
A cartoonist is now being condemned for drawing an unflattering cartoon of Serena. It seems that "angry black woman"is a racist trope. Fancy that -A nasty unflattering cartoon! Serena is a lovely name. Totally inappropriate here though. These controversies almost seem contrived to get people angry at each other along lines of race and gender. It seems that every few weeks there is something to make some people shout: "Racism, sexism" and other people shout: "PC gone mad!" I mean, I don't think the cartoon was racist or sexist, but it was kind of nasty and mean-spirited.
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Post by cato on Sept 12, 2018 10:11:23 GMT
I think the genre of cartoon drawing tends to cruel caricature. Martyn Turner of the Irish Times is a prime example. He rarely if ever lampoons the inconsistencies and hypocrises of liberal compassionate Ireland though. Punch magazine specialised in anti Irish anti catholic and xenophobic material for much of its run. Daniel O Connell was depicted as an obese potato which is pretty nasty if you think about it. Earlier again satirists depicted Edmund Burke as an untrustworthy Jesuit. (Enough said!)
Affectionate cartoons do exist but don't seem to have the same impact as the negative somehow.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 12, 2018 10:33:14 GMT
I think the genre of cartoon drawing tends to cruel caricature. Martyn Turner of the Irish Times is a prime example. He rarely if ever lampoons the inconsistencies and hypocrises of liberal compassionate Ireland though. Punch magazine specialised in anti Irish anti catholic and xenophobic material for much of its run. Daniel O Connell was depicted as an obese potato which is pretty nasty if you think about it. Earlier again satirists depicted Edmund Burke as an untrustworthy Jesuit. (Enough said!) Affectionate cartoons do exist but don't seem to have the same impact as the negative somehow. I have no idea how Martyn Turner makes his living as a cartoonist. I have never seen a funny Martyn Turner cartoon, ever.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 17, 2018 13:21:20 GMT
There is a cadre of "anti-political correctness" celebrities I detest. I mean people like Katie Hopkins, Jeremy Clarkson, Jim Davidson, Gordon Ramsay, and Michael O'Leary. Being rude, loud, and obnoxious is seen as a virtue by people like this, and they or their defenders often defend it by contrasting it with "political correctness". I can't stand them!
Mind you, the confusion seems widespread enough. I have one colleague who says he doesn't like old comedies such as Fawlty Towers because of "the political correctness". That comment baffled me for a moment ("I'm sorry, he's from Barcelona", "Don't mention the war", etc. etc.), but eventually I realized he was talking about former taboos on bad language and sexual explicitness. I certainly don't consider that "political correctness."
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Post by Stephen on Sept 17, 2018 14:23:53 GMT
There is a cadre of "anti-political correctness" celebrities I detest. I mean people like Katie Hopkins, Jeremy Clarkson, Jim Davidson, Gordon Ramsay, and Michael O'Leary. Being rude, loud, and obnoxious is seen as a virtue by people like this, and they or their defenders often defend it by contrasting it with "political correctness". I can't stand them! Mind you, the confusion seems widespread enough. I have one colleague who says he doesn't like old comedies such as Fawlty Towers because of "the political correctness". That comment baffled me for a moment ("I'm sorry, he's from Barcelona", "Don't mention the war", etc. etc.), but eventually I realized he was talking about former taboos on bad language and sexual explicitness. I certainly don't consider that "political correctness." I agree wholeheartedly... Katie Hopkins is a joke.
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