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Post by cato on Sept 17, 2018 19:22:09 GMT
There is a cadre of "anti-political correctness" celebrities I detest. I mean people like Katie Hopkins, Jeremy Clarkson, Jim Davidson, Gordon Ramsay, and Michael O'Leary. Being rude, loud, and obnoxious is seen as a virtue by people like this, and they or their defenders often defend it by contrasting it with "political correctness". I can think of two very prominent public individuals who are rude loud and obnoxious that you don't mention! Some have seen them as right/left mirror images of the other. I do think it is important leaders do by and large show public good example and virtue. Sometimes it may be necessary to support a S.O.B. when in the words of Henry Kissinger he is our S.O.B. I can't stand them! I am a great fan of Michael O Leary who has created Europe's biggest airline and who isn't afraid to take on powerful lobbies in a colourful manner . I am old enough to remember when Aer Lingus was a taxi service for the well heeled and foreign travel was a luxury for the few. O Leary has done more to bring Europeans together than any number of EU junkets. Those same eurocrats loathe him which is usually a good thing. That said I have always thought his treatment of customers like cattle at times was plain stupid. Respect for the customer costs little financially and creates good will. For this reason I try to fly Aer Lingus if at all possible. That and sentimental loyalty to the "National" carrier.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 17, 2018 19:28:38 GMT
There is a cadre of "anti-political correctness" celebrities I detest. I mean people like Katie Hopkins, Jeremy Clarkson, Jim Davidson, Gordon Ramsay, and Michael O'Leary. Being rude, loud, and obnoxious is seen as a virtue by people like this, and they or their defenders often defend it by contrasting it with "political correctness". I can think of two very prominent public individuals who are rude loud and obnoxious that you don't mention! Some have seen them as right/left mirror images of the other. I do think it is important leaders do by and large show public good example and virtue. Sometimes it may be necessary to support a S.O.B. when in the words of Henry Kissinger he is our S.O.B. I can't stand them! I am a great fan of Michael O Leary who has created Europe's biggest airline and who isn't afraid to take on powerful lobbies in a colourful manner . I am old enough to remember when Aer Lingus was a taxi service for the well heeled and foreign travel was a luxury for the few. O Leary has done more to bring Europeans together than any number of EU junkets. Those same eurocrats loathe him which is usually a good thing. That said I have always thought his treatment of customers like cattle at times was plain stupid. Respect for the customer costs little financially and creates good will. For this reason I try to fly Aer Lingus if at all possible. That and sentimental loyalty to the "National" carrier. From what I hear, they don't treat their staff too well, either. I'm not talking about the pilots, but the air hostesses-- having to buy their own uniforms and sell lottery tickets and all that. I have never flown Ryanair!
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Post by assisi on Sept 17, 2018 21:19:11 GMT
Got to say I can't stand Bono's sickly globalist tripe. See his latest outburst on stage in Paris criticising Sweden's recent election results. An embarrassment to Ireland. www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjIORAjYWng
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Post by cato on Sept 17, 2018 21:28:00 GMT
From what I hear, they don't treat their staff too well, either. I'm not talking about the pilots, but the air hostesses-- having to buy their own uniforms and sell lottery tickets and all that. I have never flown Ryanair! [/quote]
A major problem with many of the big companies we use - the Amazons, the Googles the Apples etc is that they treat their staff in an appalling manner. Many posts are contracted out to other companies who pay a fraction of the wages they should and union representation is discouraged.
These companies make huge profits which mainly benefit a tiny elite at the top. The idea of rewarding the hard work of the front line staff who do the donkey work has been abandoned ironically by the fabulously rich enterpreneurs and wizz kids who own these companies but who claim to be socially progressive. Start by paying a just wage so people can live a normal existence.
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Post by cato on Sept 17, 2018 21:33:21 GMT
Got to say I can't stand Bono's sickly globalist tripe. See his latest outburst on stage in Paris criticising Sweden's recent election results. An embarrassment to Ireland. www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjIORAjYWngWhy isn't Bono running for president? Or the head of the UN? Or special advisor to the Holy Father? His talents are not being utilised in this dark time when we and the EU face a massive Fascist racist tide.✊
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 18, 2018 7:00:35 GMT
I have not listened to any U2 music, despite liking much of it, since their intervention in the abortion referendum.
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Post by kj on Oct 7, 2020 19:16:05 GMT
I have an uncharitable bit of bile I need to get out of my system.
As part of my last doomed attempt to revive my Gaeilge I tried watching TG4's "Crainn na hEireann", a series about Ireland's trees and forests presented by Manchán Magan.
Now I am aware Magan does great work for the language with his books and series, but his politics or worldview or whatever you want to call it grates my nerves. I saw him say in a recent IT interview that he believes in Progress with a capital P, and he thinks that the world is becoming a better place literally every day.
I also believe he is some distant relative of Ernie O'Malley or else his relatives were connected with him somehow, but he regards the anti-Treaty side as "crazy" "lunatics" etc. I find that common view of the same men who had not long before been fighting for independence to be very insulting and disrespectful.
Anyway, I was trying to enjoy this documentary being something of a tree fan myself, but Magan kept banging on and on about "pagan" this and "pagan" that in a way that made it clear he had no time for Christianity and was determined to reduce anything Christian back to the usual pre-Xtian roots (no pun intended).
It rapidly became insufferable, and I was on the verge of turning it off when he arrived at Muckross Abbey, which has a huge and venerable yew tree in the middle of one of the cloisters. Magan was being shown around by a guide and when they came to this tree he began his usual spiel, "I imagine this tree was here long before the monks and is in fact of pagan origin..." The guide abruptly cut across him: "No! It was planted by the monks." This shut Magan's gob for a while.
I haven't watched another episode....
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Oct 8, 2020 8:52:56 GMT
I have an uncharitable bit of bile I need to get out of my system. As part of my last doomed attempt to revive my Gaeilge I tried watching TG4's "Crainn na hEireann", a series about Ireland's trees and forests presented by Manchán Magan. Now I am aware Magan does great work for the language with his books and series, but his politics or worldview or whatever you want to call it grates my nerves. I saw him say in a recent IT interview that he believes in Progress with a capital P, and he thinks that the world is becoming a better place literally every day. I also believe he is some distant relative of Ernie O'Malley or else his relatives were connected with him somehow, but he regards the anti-Treaty side as "crazy" "lunatics" etc. I find that common view of the same men who had not long before been fighting for independence to be very insulting and disrespectful. Anyway, I was trying to enjoy this documentary being something of a tree fan myself, but Magan kept banging on and on about "pagan" this and "pagan" that in a way that made it clear he had no time for Christianity and was determined to reduce anything Christian back to the usual pre-Xtian roots (no pun intended). It rapidly became insufferable, and I was on the verge of turning it off when he arrived at Muckross Abbey, which has a huge and venerable yew tree in the middle of one of the cloisters. Magan was being shown around by a guide and when they came to this tree he began his usual spiel, "I imagine this tree was here long before the monks and is in fact of pagan origin..." The guide abruptly cut across him: "No! It was planted by the monks." This shut Magan's gob for a while. I haven't watched another episode.... It seems odd to me that such an ardent believer in Progress should have any time for paganism! I've never heard of this dude, thankfully.
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Post by kj on Oct 8, 2020 9:17:28 GMT
I think for a lot of the more mindless iconoclasts paganism is good simply because it's not Christian.
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Post by hilary on Oct 8, 2020 20:56:16 GMT
I have an uncharitable bit of bile I need to get out of my system. As part of my last doomed attempt to revive my Gaeilge I tried watching TG4's "Crainn na hEireann", a series about Ireland's trees and forests presented by Manchán Magan. Now I am aware Magan does great work for the language with his books and series, but his politics or worldview or whatever you want to call it grates my nerves. I saw him say in a recent IT interview that he believes in Progress with a capital P, and he thinks that the world is becoming a better place literally every day. I also believe he is some distant relative of Ernie O'Malley or else his relatives were connected with him somehow, but he regards the anti-Treaty side as "crazy" "lunatics" etc. I find that common view of the same men who had not long before been fighting for independence to be very insulting and disrespectful. Anyway, I was trying to enjoy this documentary being something of a tree fan myself, but Magan kept banging on and on about "pagan" this and "pagan" that in a way that made it clear he had no time for Christianity and was determined to reduce anything Christian back to the usual pre-Xtian roots (no pun intended). It rapidly became insufferable, and I was on the verge of turning it off when he arrived at Muckross Abbey, which has a huge and venerable yew tree in the middle of one of the cloisters. Magan was being shown around by a guide and when they came to this tree he began his usual spiel, "I imagine this tree was here long before the monks and is in fact of pagan origin..." The guide abruptly cut across him: "No! It was planted by the monks." This shut Magan's gob for a while. I haven't watched another episode.... I've seen bits of travel programmes he did and I though he had a good way about him for that sort of thing. But looking him up again I can see quite a bit to object to alright - the hats and being a hermit etc. I'd say he might be quite at home on this site though! A Gonzaga boy.
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Post by kj on Dec 10, 2021 9:24:44 GMT
I was listening to Lyric FM last night and the presenter a propos of nothing suddenly launched into an anti-Christianity spiel. This is a rough paraphrase:
"Christianity no longer has a grip on the public mind. All those centuries of power and abuse and manipulation....If it has any meaning today, it is in the shape - whether it be a myth, a legend - of a refugee family fleeing into strange lands...."
All delivered in the style of that smug, self-satisfied, oh-so-cool Dublin arts scene hive.....
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Dec 10, 2021 10:03:22 GMT
I was listening to Lyric FM last night and the presenter a propos of nothing suddenly launched into an anti-Christianity spiel. This is a rough paraphrase: "Christianity no longer has a grip on the public mind. All those centuries of power and abuse and manipulation....If it has any meaning today, it is in the shape - whether it be a myth, a legend - of a refugee family fleeing into strange lands...." All delivered in the style of that smug, self-satisfied, oh-so-cool Dublin arts scene hive..... It would be interesting to know if he would get any blowback on this.
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Post by kj on Dec 10, 2021 10:14:03 GMT
It would be interesting to know if he would get any blowback on this. I would be surprised if he did. It's a cheap and obvious point, but I doubt he or anyone else would dare criticise the other big Abrahamic religion. I remember some years back now Lyric decided to scrap its early Sunday morning programme 'Gloria' which played early Christian music. There was an enormous outcry by listeners but it still went, and was replaced by a sort of 'global sacred music' programme hosted by a fellow who, to my mind, has no voice for radio.
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Post by cato on Dec 11, 2021 5:54:57 GMT
It would be interesting to know if he would get any blowback on this. I would be surprised if he did. It's a cheap and obvious point, but I doubt he or anyone else would dare criticise the other big Abrahamic religion. I remember some years back now Lyric decided to scrap its early Sunday morning programme 'Gloria' which played early Christian music. There was an enormous outcry by listeners but it still went, and was replaced by a sort of 'global sacred music' programme hosted by a fellow who, to my mind, has no voice for radio. Lyric FM and some of TG 4 s output is what little remains of any worth in the tax funded RTE progressive propaganda machine. I found great solace during the last financial and national economic humiliation, and more latterly in the lockdowns in Lyric's calm and tranquility compared to the scaremongering hysteria of much of RTE's news and current affairs. The treatment of the great gentleman Tim Thurston that KJ refers to was a disgrace. Tim is a prominent member of the Church of Ireland and always adopted a broad Christian and liturgical outlook to his Sunday presentation of sacred music. The present programme is much less Christian in outlook. No corner of life in contemporary Ireland is safe from the tools of the deconstructers. Some of the presenters on Lyric are professional and ideologically neutral others like " Culture file" are often at the cutting edge of the tedious decadent monotony that passes for culture in this dying age. No corner is safe from the iconoclasts.
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Post by kj on Dec 11, 2021 11:31:51 GMT
Uncharitable of me, but I cannot stand "Culture File". I'm fond of Lorcan Murray, but the second LC comes on with culture file I tune out. The monotonous voice and the shlocky arts council vibe really grates.
Marty Whelan in the morning is always a kind voice, although over the years Lyric has become sadly more saturated with news and traffic bulletins.
I've had the odd nostalgic thought lately about Lyric's forerunner FM3. Don't know if anyone recalls, but it was a station that played classical and traditional music that - I think - would come on around 7pm Friday to Sunday nights and play until around 1am. The names of the presenters escape me now.
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