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Post by Séamus on May 19, 2019 8:28:39 GMT
It didn't take long (according to paperwork I received about two or three weeks) for the publication of a book on the subject- Why The Restoration of Notre Dame Seems Doomed To Fail by John Horvat II circulated by the TFP worldwide affiliates. In the advertiser summary we're told that 'more important than a physical restoration is a moral regeneration', comparisons being made with the medieval rebuild of Chartres' Notre Dame 'a countless throng (of devout Catholic people) soon occupied Chartres. They cleared rubble, dug foundations, dragged whole trees and heavy stones. Men and women of all ages and social classes harnessed themselves to carts'. A bit hard to compare of course: the fact that, currently, the heiress of the third largest financial donor, L'Oreal, has studied and published works on theology is perhaps the most devout effort we'll see in the 21st century. I'm not sure who saw the Vincent Callebaut proposal-design for the reconstruction- a solar-powered,eco-friendly greenhouse which will grow tonnes of vegetables yearly. Another architect has proposed a rooftop apiary, under the precedent that bees lived in the steeple anyway. Ironically, if the project was under Church-control without a French government or a UNESCO the design would probably have received approval- in fact Gothic-built St Mary's Perth was 'completed' in a similar way, without producing as much as a carrot. While no one denies the cultural, artistic and even scientific benefits that a cathedral can overflow to society in general and it's own city in particular, surely ,in such an enormous City there are other places for making solar power? Then again, they have ruined old buildings with glass pyramids in Paris before. Strange that the funds are coming from synthetic L'Oreal not flower-cultivating L'Occitane, which could pick up on the usage of a greenhouse rooftop. The newspaper that I saw the Callebaut design in unconciously put an brief article next to it about a proposed cable car for Mt Kilimanjaro, with the Tanzanian government hoping to net an extra 50,000 yearly visitors. Why can't we let nature be nature and buildings be buildings? If Tanzania is convinced that there's a 50,000 person shortfall to the mountain they should realise that Jeff Parcaro and David Paich have had not a few confused bodies over the last few decades searching for the place in the Serengeti, a bit like seeking Phoenix Park in London.
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Post by Séamus on May 22, 2019 7:19:12 GMT
It....ECT.....Then again, they have ruined old buildings with glass pyramids in Paris before..etc. I hadn't realised when I wrote this that the Lourve pyramid architect had died this month, Chinese-born I.M.Pei. The obituary states that after Mitterrand selected Ieoh Ming Pei for the project "there was a barrage of criticism when he unveiled the plan in 1984. Many in France vehemently opposed such a change to the symbol of their culture, once a mediaeval fortress then a national palace....but Mitterrand and his supporters prevailed and the pyramid was finished in 1989" 102 was a good age.
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Post by Stephen on May 30, 2019 9:16:24 GMT
what is going to happen, thanks be to God:
The French Senate voted to approve plans to rebuild Notre Dame Cathedral and added a clause stipulating that it must be restored to how it was before the fire.
There has been controversy surrounding the restoration of the centuries old church, which was gutted by a massive fire last month. Some have called for the Notre Dame to be rebuilt exactly as it was, while others have pushed to add more modern elements to the Parisian landmark.
The Senate approved the bill Monday which would have the Notre Dame restored before Paris hosts the 2024 summer Olympics, but added that the cathedral must be rebuilt to its “last known visual state.”
The additional language is a rebuff of the government, which had launched an international architecture competition soliciting ideas for the Notre Dame’s redesign. The Senate also removed a clause that would have given the government the power to override planning regulations.”
notre dame as was
And the best part? French President Marcon—who declared the fire a national emergency and then freaked out quite a few Catholics and art history enthusiasts with his overzealous international architects competition that seemed open to modern innovations—won’t have power to veto this new legislature even if he wanted to.
The rebuild will be completed within the promised five years, and by 2024 Notre Dame will stand exactly as we remember her in 2019. 😀😀😀
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Post by cato on May 30, 2019 9:40:26 GMT
what is going to happen, thanks be to God: The French Senate voted to approve plans to rebuild Notre Dame Cathedral and added a clause stipulating that it must be restored to how it was before the fire. There has been controversy surrounding the restoration of the centuries old church, which was gutted by a massive fire last month. Some have called for the Notre Dame to be rebuilt exactly as it was, while others have pushed to add more modern elements to the Parisian landmark. The Senate approved the bill Monday which would have the Notre Dame restored before Paris hosts the 2024 summer Olympics, but added that the cathedral must be rebuilt to its “last known visual state.” The additional language is a rebuff of the government, which had launched an international architecture competition soliciting ideas for the Notre Dame’s redesign. The Senate also removed a clause that would have given the government the power to override planning regulations.” notre dame as was And the best part? French President Marcon—who declared the fire a national emergency and then freaked out quite a few Catholics and art history enthusiasts with his overzealous international architects competition that seemed open to modern innovations—won’t have power to veto this new legislature even if he wanted to. The rebuild will be completed within the promised five years, and by 2024 Notre Dame will stand exactly as we remember her in 2019. 😀😀😀 I am an architectural dinosaur so this is welcome news. I hope however they use steel when they replace the roof as it is much safer than wood .Using steel will also spare a large oak forest being cut down.
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Post by Séamus on Jun 8, 2019 11:50:07 GMT
The traditional-Mass-goers' Notre Dame (Paris ) to Notre Dame (Chartres) walk somehow started the other day without the usual access to the starting-point Notre Dame- a priest from western Australia gave word that a Mass was held,said by himself, for some Irish,Scottish,Welsh and Australian participants in Centre Cultural Irlandais,built in penal times as the Irish College of Paris. A bit of looking-up tells one that the French government didn't change the status of an Irish seminary until the 20th Century,making it a Polish College, persumedly Poland's communist government was a reason for it's ongoing existence. Yet it stayed as such until years after Solidarity,during which time a restoration of St Patrick's chapel took place (where pictures of Ireland's two most famous patrons adorn the small sanctuary )
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Post by cato on Apr 15, 2020 15:14:10 GMT
The Notre Dame fire occurred a year ago this evening at 7pm Irish Time. Many saw it as a sign at the time. The signs continue in the grim long Lent of 2020 as the death toll from Covid 19 climbs internationally, at least in the west.
Tonight the bells will ring out to mark the evening we thought we might lose one of the glories of Medieval European Christian Civilisation. Notre Dame De Paris ora pro nobis.
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Post by Tomas on Apr 15, 2020 16:24:41 GMT
The Notre Dame fire occurred a year ago this evening at 7pm Irish Time. Many saw it as a sign at the time. The signs continue in the grim long Lent of 2020 as the death toll from Covid 19 climbs internationally, at least in the west. Tonight the bells will ring out to mark the evening we thought we might lose one of the glories of Medieval European Christian Civilisation. Notre Dame De Paris ora pro nobis. Thanks for info! This will be a perfect time to say a prayer with my beloved conversion gift in hand, a rosary from exactly this sanctuary. French saints and especially the courtly love of St. Bernard were said to be instrumental in the widening use of the term "our Lady" in western Europe, while in Britain the usage was apparently much older than the High Middle Ages. It was also used in another way and more popular at the earlier origins there. First mentioned in poetry by one Cynewulf in the eight century, and being generally used by people "not so much as a title as a familiar term of relationship and affection". (Source: "A Dictionary of Mary" by Donald Attwater.)
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Post by Séamus on Nov 28, 2021 9:05:52 GMT
"Modern art murals could replace confessional boxes and classical sculptures under the proposals. Sound and light effects will create 'emotional spaces' with visitors led to 14 themed chapels on a 'discovery trail'. Quotations from the Bible will be projected on the walls. The plans have caused uproar in France,with critics claiming the mediaeval cathedral will be turned into an 'experimental liturgical showroom'. Maurice Culot,a prizewinning Paris-based architect said:'It's as if Disney were entering Notre Dame'" (unattributed newspaper report nov 28 2021).
Mr Maurice has forgotten that Disney,like many other studios who brought Hugo's work to life,did enter Notre Dame several years ago and,like the German castle it reproduced in the US, liked it exactly as it was, but one understands the comparison used. Even humanist Victor seemed sad that 'this' (as the archdeacon pointed to a printed book, symbolic of technology and information-on-demand[of 15th century sorts]) 'will destroy this(Notre Dame)'
The Michaelmas edition of a quarterly publication from the Orkney Islands Redemptorists happened to include a 1957 article 'What is Religious Art?'...."while urging us to engage outstanding artists,the Church at the same time rejects new art which breaks completely with approved and venerable transitions..."
A large print of a 15th century Assumption was added- by the self-effacing artist known as the 'Master of St Lucy'. Aside from early Celtic illumination it's hard to imagine more anything more painstakingly intricate as Our Lady's hair or the Angel's vestments. Those that have them- several Spirits are wearing copes or dalmatics while others just have nice gowns. I never knew the heavenly bodies were divided into ordained and non-ordained,but there we have it.
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Post by cato on Nov 28, 2021 15:41:44 GMT
"Modern art murals could replace confessional boxes and classical sculptures under the proposals. Sound and light effects will create 'emotional spaces' with visitors led to 14 themed chapels on a 'discovery trail'. Quotations from the Bible will be projected on the walls. The plans have caused uproar in France,with critics claiming the mediaeval cathedral will be turned into an 'experimental liturgical showroom'. Maurice Culot,a prizewinning Paris-based architect said:'It's as if Disney were entering Notre Dame'" (unattributed newspaper report nov 28 2021). Mr Maurice has forgotten that Disney,like many other studios who brought Hugo's work to life,did enter Notre Dame several years ago and,like the German castle it reproduced in the US, liked it exactly as it was, but one understands the comparison used. Even humanist Victor seemed sad that 'this' (as the archdeacon pointed to a printed book, symbolic of technology and information-on-demand[of 15th century sorts]) 'will destroy this(Notre Dame)' The Michaelmas edition of a quarterly publication from the Orkney Islands Redemptorists happened to include a 1957 article 'What is Religious Art?'...."while urging us to engage outstanding artists,the Church at the same time rejects new art which breaks completely with approved and venerable transitions..." A large print of a 15th century Assumption was added- by the self-effacing artist known as the 'Master of St Lucy'. Aside from early Celtic illumination it's hard to imagine more anything more painstakingly intricate as Our Lady's hair or the Angel's vestments. Those that have them- several Spirits are wearing copes or dalmatics while others just have nice gowns. I never knew the heavenly bodies were divided into ordained and non-ordained,but there we have it. The liturgical wreckovations of the 1970s and 1980s which have no conciliar mandate , appear to be making an unwelcome return as part of the new renewal. The plans mentioned by Seamus appear to be an attempt to turn a living centre of Catholic worship into an interpretative centre explaining Christianity to the pagan tourists that flock to Paris. The Archbishop of Paris resigned on Friday last over allegations of a tyrst with a lady so maybe the renewal will be put on hold in the short term. Most French churches were confiscated by the state so I can only hope that ultimately the French president can and will intervene and prevent the hierarchy demolishing her own and France's heritage.
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