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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 14, 2019 12:11:48 GMT
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Post by cato on Jun 14, 2019 12:56:18 GMT
Graham Norton who is now enjoying an enormously successful career as a media celebrity in the UK made a remark some time ago that he is now part of the establishment and that he really relishes it.
June is now Pride month and it has been branded an inclusive family friendly event by big business , the state and now the police. As the LGBTIWA community is united mainly by non procreative sexuality this is somewhat bizarre.The above article does show how cynical the mainstream appropriation of the gay revolution is. The movement from legal criminality to becoming a badge of social virtue is an interesting and rapid phenomena in modern Ireland.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 14, 2019 14:23:10 GMT
Graham Norton who is now enjoying an enormously successful career as a media celebrity in the UK made a remark some time ago that he is now part of the establishment and that he really relishes it. June is now Pride month and it has been branded an inclusive family friendly event by big business , the state and now the police. As the LGBTIWA community is united mainly by non procreative sexuality this is somewhat bizarre.The above article does show how cynical the mainstream appropriation of the gay revolution is. The movement from legal criminality to becoming a badge of social virtue is an interesting and rapid phenomena in modern Ireland. Do you remember when Marxists used to claim that business promoted a socially conservative, religious, and nationalistic philosophy, to keep the masses from Revolution? That narrative seems to have been quietly dropped...
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 14, 2019 14:25:23 GMT
Graham Norton who is now enjoying an enormously successful career as a media celebrity in the UK made a remark some time ago that he is now part of the establishment and that he really relishes it. It reminds me of a remark by Quentin Crisp, writer of The Naked Civil Servant, and an open homosexual before it was profitable or popular. He was also the inspiration for Sting's song "Englishman in New York". Later in life, he claimed to have become "one of the stately homos of England". (Crisp himself could be critical of the gay rights movement, despite being an icon of it.)
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Post by cato on Jun 18, 2019 19:04:50 GMT
Graham Norton who is now enjoying an enormously successful career as a media celebrity in the UK made a remark some time ago that he is now part of the establishment and that he really relishes it. It reminds me of a remark by Quentin Crisp, writer of The Naked Civil Servant, and an open homosexual before it was profitable or popular. He was also the inspiration for Sting's song "Englishman in New York". Later in life, he claimed to have become "one of the stately homos of England". (Crisp himself could be critical of the gay rights movement, despite being an icon of it.) What annoyed me about the Norton quote was the smug sense of the newly arrived self entitled. Quentin Crisp could be outrageous. I suspect he would be silenced if he were around today. The English actor John Hurt played him in the Channel 4 dramatisation of An Englishman in New York which is well worth a watch. BBC 4 recently carried Hurt's portrayal of the caddish Thatcher worshipping Alan Clarke whose best selling diaries were dramitised for the small screen. I forgot they were so good.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 19, 2019 9:27:20 GMT
I wonder if Gay Pride has tapped into a certain void in our society. We have a paucity of festivities, celebration and flamboyance. Only at Christmas, really, do we indulge in these things. Most of the religious and regional festivities which once brightened our calendar, and which seem to have their equivalents in other societies throughout the world and throughout history, have dried up.
It's significant to me that many straight people participate in Gay Pride events.
How I wish that we decked out shops, pubs, buses and offices for something less sinister and decadent. (I say that meaning no insult to those who experience same-sex attraction. It's obvious now that the LGBT agenda goes way beyond seeking sensitive treatment of gay people.) We had the Tailteann Games at the dawn of independence. Now we have Gay Pride.
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Post by Séamus on Jun 19, 2019 11:56:43 GMT
I wonder if Gay Pride has tapped into a certain void in our society. We have a paucity of festivities, celebration and flamboyance. Only at Christmas, really, do we indulge in these things. Most of the religious and regional festivities which once brightened our calendar, and which seem to have their equivalents in other societies throughout the world and throughout history, have dried up. It's significant to me that many straight people participate in Gay Pride events. How I wish that we decked out shops, pubs, buses and offices for something less sinister and decadent. (I say that meaning no insult to those who experience same-sex attraction. It's obvious now that the LGBT agenda goes way beyond seeking sensitive treatment of gay people.) We had the Tailteann Games at the dawn of independence. Now we have Gay Pride. It's probably not a coincidence that these events are usually called Mardi gras from the old preLent season. A 1940s description of Confirmation : "All Cong was en fete. From lake to lake the maze of avenues and woodland paths slumbered or undisturbed but welcoming banners spanned the roads and the Local Security Force was out,spick and span, to provide a guard of welcome to the visiting Metropolitan of Connaught. We onlookers stood packed together at the open doorway of the homely parish church" And Corpus Christi : "slowly the mile-long procession moved over the crest of the hill towards St Eunan's college...every window was gay with flowers (sic), the front porch, the first altar of repose,brilliant with blooms and flickering candles. The strong wind blew the girl's white muslin veils and blue and white frocks into streaming garlands and made the golden stars twinkle as it rustled the white and gold canopy " K.VanHoek
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Post by assisi on Jun 19, 2019 17:01:49 GMT
It may be my imagination but there may be a small recalibration of the big three 'weapons' of the 'globalist left' (Feminism, open ended migration and LGBT).
They are all still to the forefront, they won't be going away anytime soon, but maybe feminism has been a little more muted since the heady days of the Harvey Weinstein scandal. Is there just a hint of doubt entering the consciousness of the feminist lobby since it has clashed with transgenderism over males competing in women's sport?
The mass migration push is still there but less frantic? Perhaps it is the gay pride thing that offers the best and quickest way to subvert traditional society in the eyes of the globalist left?
In the battle between feminism and transgenderism, who will win out? For the cultural marxists, I think the big prize lies in the LGBT (transgender) movement winning, as this allows them to offer their brave new world as a place where you can re-invent yourself, define yourself in whatever fantastical way you wish. The gains from feminism are more narrow in that feminism still ultimately has to recognise the binary male/female categories, otherwise it will render itself null and void.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 19, 2019 17:14:42 GMT
It may be my imagination but there may be a small recalibration of the big three 'weapons' of the 'globalist left' (Feminism, open ended migration and LGBT). They are all still to the forefront, they won't be going away anytime soon, but maybe feminism has been a little more muted since the heady days of the Harvey Weinstein scandal. Is there just a hint of doubt entering the consciousness of the feminist lobby since it has clashed with transgenderism over males competing in women's sport? The mass migration push is still there but less frantic? Perhaps it is the gay pride thing that offers the best and quickest way to subvert traditional society in the eyes of the globalist left? In the battle between feminism and transgenderism, who will win out? For the cultural marxists, I think the big prize lies in the LGBT (transgender) movement winning, as this allows them to offer their brave new world as a place where you can re-invent yourself, define yourself in whatever fantastical way you wish. The gains from feminism are more narrow in that feminism still ultimately has to recognise the binary male/female categories, otherwise it will render itself null and void. I agree that LGBT trumps feminism. For political correctness/liberalism/progressivism etc., the most promising philosophy is that which dissolves traditions and social forms most powerfully. So feminism certainly dissolved tradition, but at least it accepted the idea of man and woman, however much of a battlefield it made it. LGBT is even more effective at dissolving traditions. Doubtless, when LGBT has been played out, even that will be undermined by something yet more decadent.
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Gay Pride
Jun 24, 2019 9:05:02 GMT
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Post by Séamus on Jun 24, 2019 9:05:02 GMT
I wonder...etc...) We had the Tailteann Games at the dawn of independence. Now we have Gay Pride. A passage I came across in a 1970s Kerry-produced booklet highlights the sports/nationalist combination: "It is interesting also to note that a fortnight before the '24 final was played, on Sunday April 12,to be exact ,the annual Congress of the GAA,meeting in Croke Park,decided by 69 votes to 23 to retain the Rule prohibiting members of the Association from taking part or encouraging foreign games. It was also decided by 59 votes to 25 to retain the Rule which suspended for three months a member who attended a foreign game as a spectator" cf.years of glory, Barry/Horan
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Post by cato on Jun 24, 2019 16:07:27 GMT
Our Unionist friends like to put up red white and blue flags and bunting and mark out large swathes of the North as true blue territory this time of year. In Dublin we now have the rainbow flag on official flagpoles and most tourist shops and a majority of pubs. Post boxes have been painted in the rainbow colours. RTE (Surprise suprise) are the proud sponsers of Pride and Dublin bus have several buses with Pride slogans painted on them.
Traditionally Dublin bus drivers were a tough macho independent lot. Indeed recently some objected to driving buses promoting right wing candidates for the European parliament. I wonder are there any left who would refuse to drive a bus advertising the new Gay order though? Perhaps Amnesty International could take up their case if they got persecuted as a result.
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Gay Pride
Jun 26, 2019 8:16:34 GMT
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Post by Séamus on Jun 26, 2019 8:16:34 GMT
I wonder...etc...) We had the Tailteann Games at the dawn of independence. Now we have Gay Pride. A passage I came across in a 1970s Kerry-produced booklet highlights the sports/nationalist combination: "It is interesting also to note that a fortnight before the '24 final was played, on Sunday April 12,to be exact ,the annual Congress of the GAA,meeting in Croke Park,decided by 69 votes to 23 to retain the Rule prohibiting members of the Association from taking part or encouraging foreign games. It was also decided by 59 votes to 25 to retain the Rule which suspended for three months a member who attended a foreign game as a spectator" cf.years of glory, Barry/Horan Incidentally,an indication of how language changes ,Irish-Australian singer Damien Leith in his 2015 recording of Star of the County Down seems to sing 'a feeling rare' (was always 'a feeling queer[quare]'). Safer. It's interesting that GAA wasn't without it's variations when it came to defining foreign sport: "missing from the (1932) Kerry team was Eamon Fitzgerald who was chosen to represent Ireland in the Olympic Games in Los Angeles. He completed in the hop,step and jump and qualified for the final with a leap of 48ft,2,3/4 inches. In fact he missed a bronze medal by only 1,1/4inches behind the third man, Oshima of Japan" Appropriate also to quote a newsletter I got yesterday: "when professor VanMeter came to Western Australia last year he was booked to speak at University of WA which was appropriate given his qualifications as a scientist and a researcher..." Comment :American Quentin VanMeter argues that 'gender dysphoria' should be treated a psychological phase that passes,usually after teenage years "...the evening before he was due to speak the university cancelled the booking on the grounds that they could not guarantee his safety on campus!A visiting Professor unsafe on a university campus ? In WA? The campaign against Pro. VanMeter was instigated and driven by a petition from a homosexual first year medical student and the university caved in!" cf DLP newsletter June 19
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Gay Pride
Jun 26, 2019 9:49:51 GMT
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Post by cato on Jun 26, 2019 9:49:51 GMT
Senator Gerry Buttimer is setting up a LGTBIA group in Leinster house and the rainbow flag will fly over the Dail this weekend.
I thought that the only flag that flew over the Dail was the national one. Now it would appear that a fashionable liberal cause can get that perk too.
Could you imagine the outrage if someone had flown the Vatican flag over the Dail last August during the papal visit? Up to recently that flag was the one , after the tricolour, that most Irish people displayed on important local events. No doubt this will enter liberal demonology as more evidence of catholic oppression in the monochrome minority repressing Ireland before marriage equality and Repeal.
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Post by kj on Jun 27, 2019 12:49:02 GMT
I'm going to sound a maybe controversially elitist note here, but doesn't all this simply prove the vast majority of people simply think and feel whatever they're told to think and feel? In the 50s Gay Pride couldn't even have been an idea in the head of the average Irish person. Today it's gay this, that and the other thing. Politics and culture are driven by elites and those with power and influence, that's all it tells me. Which is why Irish Conservatives need to be more active in trying to acquire that power instead of moaning from the ditch.
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Gay Pride
Jun 27, 2019 13:29:23 GMT
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Post by cato on Jun 27, 2019 13:29:23 GMT
I'm going to sound a maybe controversially elitist note here, but doesn't all this simply prove the vast majority of people simply think and feel whatever they're told to think and feel? In the 50s Gay Pride couldn't even have been an idea in the head of the average Irish person. Today it's gay this, that and the other thing. Politics and culture are driven by elites and those with power and influence, that's all it tells me. Which is why Irish Conservatives need to be more active in trying to acquire that power instead of moaning from the ditch. Welcome back kj. How would you suggest we get the power back? Even "Moaning" is now an act of subversion in modern Ireland given the almost 100% extreme liberal leftist conformity in public ideology in the media and in state policy .
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