Post by rogerbuck on Jul 2, 2017 10:54:11 GMT
Crossposting something here I just posted to Fish Eaters, with uncharacteristic haste, as I say ...
Friends, I'm posting something with uncharacteristic swiftness, before I race out the door for go offline for the rest of the day
But want to say I am stunned and sickened. What can I say ... sometimes this 53 year old "old fogey" who lives quite reclusively in the rural north of Ireland with no television, nor contact with a lot of things in the modern world feels COMPLETELY NAIVE, COMPLETELY OUT OF IT!
(Which is partly why, only partly why I am so grateful to Fish Eaters - how it helps to educate me as to where modern "progressive" culture is going ...
I am shocked beyond belief by an transgender thing that a Catholic friend of mine posted on Facebook.
Naively, I ask is this for real ... ?!
I'm bolding some bits that I feel particularly ... words fail. Words utterly fail. This is sick beyond belief, if it's real. And it looks real. Or is it some kind of trolling? But I'm in a hurry right now. Little time to check it out properly.
Comments appreciated!
GenderTrender
I’m planning to sterilize my seven year old son before he sexually matures, then freeze my own eggs so he can one day find a surrogate and raise my offspring (his siblings) as their “mother”. Is that weird?
April 26, 2015
[Image: mother-and-son.jpg?w=304&h=319]
From Reddit:
Is it a weird idea to freeze my eggs for my young transgender daughter who will likely never create sperm? (self.asktransgender)
submitted 2 hours ago * by jamiemommax3
I have a transgender 7 year old daughter. She has become a beautiful, happy, vibrant person since she started transitioning a year ago. I have no reason to think her identity will change and neither does her therapist.
Because she is so young, she will most likely go on puberty blockers before she ever creates sperm. If she then goes onto hormone treatments directly from the blockers, she will be sterile. She will never create sperm.
She’s too young to tell me whether she might someday want biological children, and I strongly suspect, knowing her personality as I do, that she will not want to give up hormone treatments for the length of time it would take to create sperm, because the effects on HER would be, well, significant.
I am in a “Parent of Trans kids” group online and several of the moms mentioned that they were freezing their own eggs for their transgender daughters, so that their daughters could someday have the option of having children who are at least partially related to them. On the one hand, it seems like a huge expense for my daughter to be able to have a child who is a genetic half-sibling… but on the other hand, I see the reasoning. I am also a chronic worrier and I wonder if doing this would cause the child to feel pressured to use the eggs even if they didn’t really want to.
I’m curious what you older (than my 7 year old daughter) folks think about this. Is it a ridiculous idea? My daughter has two half siblings who could conceivably donate eggs or sperm later on in life, and that kind of seems like it might be a better option to me.
If I did this for her, I’d have to do it NOW before I get any older and my eggs deteriorate, but luckily I’m not out of the age window to have healthy eggs right now. I am, however, not in any financial position to do this, though I hear that there may be options to help with that and will look into them if it seems like a good idea.
So… basically I’m just curious to see what the reaction to the idea is, here in this community. I’m leaning towards “probably unnecessary and maybe even a bit weird” but… if someday my daughter wanted it, I’d hate to say I passed up the opportunity to help her.
EDIT: Secondary question, but related. I am in contact with a young transwoman who does have frozen sperm and wants to have biological children. She is not in a good financial place for in vitro, surrogate, all that. I am not comfortable being a surrogate but would be willing to donate eggs to her for free (no reimbursement for my time, and willing to travel to work within her free healthcare system) but I don’t know her that well and don’t know if it’s appropriate to offer or weird? I’ve donated eggs in the past to an anonymous couple, so I know how it works and what to expect. I just don’t know whether it’s something to offer or not. I don’t want to make someone feel weird or obligated… but it could eliminate a portion of the cost, and I have a good track record – I’ve successfully donated before, and have three healthy children. Just not sure how or whether to approach it, I guess…
Link here ... there are also some comments which I have not had time to digest ... gendertrender.wordpress.com/2015...ir-mother/
I would be very interested in any comment. It ties in with something I might do in my next video and any thoughts most welcome before I do that video ...
Is what she's talking about "puberty blockers" etc ... sterilisation of a child even legal? Naive ... I cannot believe this ...
Friends, I'm posting something with uncharacteristic swiftness, before I race out the door for go offline for the rest of the day
But want to say I am stunned and sickened. What can I say ... sometimes this 53 year old "old fogey" who lives quite reclusively in the rural north of Ireland with no television, nor contact with a lot of things in the modern world feels COMPLETELY NAIVE, COMPLETELY OUT OF IT!
(Which is partly why, only partly why I am so grateful to Fish Eaters - how it helps to educate me as to where modern "progressive" culture is going ...
I am shocked beyond belief by an transgender thing that a Catholic friend of mine posted on Facebook.
Naively, I ask is this for real ... ?!
I'm bolding some bits that I feel particularly ... words fail. Words utterly fail. This is sick beyond belief, if it's real. And it looks real. Or is it some kind of trolling? But I'm in a hurry right now. Little time to check it out properly.
Comments appreciated!
GenderTrender
I’m planning to sterilize my seven year old son before he sexually matures, then freeze my own eggs so he can one day find a surrogate and raise my offspring (his siblings) as their “mother”. Is that weird?
April 26, 2015
[Image: mother-and-son.jpg?w=304&h=319]
From Reddit:
Is it a weird idea to freeze my eggs for my young transgender daughter who will likely never create sperm? (self.asktransgender)
submitted 2 hours ago * by jamiemommax3
I have a transgender 7 year old daughter. She has become a beautiful, happy, vibrant person since she started transitioning a year ago. I have no reason to think her identity will change and neither does her therapist.
Because she is so young, she will most likely go on puberty blockers before she ever creates sperm. If she then goes onto hormone treatments directly from the blockers, she will be sterile. She will never create sperm.
She’s too young to tell me whether she might someday want biological children, and I strongly suspect, knowing her personality as I do, that she will not want to give up hormone treatments for the length of time it would take to create sperm, because the effects on HER would be, well, significant.
I am in a “Parent of Trans kids” group online and several of the moms mentioned that they were freezing their own eggs for their transgender daughters, so that their daughters could someday have the option of having children who are at least partially related to them. On the one hand, it seems like a huge expense for my daughter to be able to have a child who is a genetic half-sibling… but on the other hand, I see the reasoning. I am also a chronic worrier and I wonder if doing this would cause the child to feel pressured to use the eggs even if they didn’t really want to.
I’m curious what you older (than my 7 year old daughter) folks think about this. Is it a ridiculous idea? My daughter has two half siblings who could conceivably donate eggs or sperm later on in life, and that kind of seems like it might be a better option to me.
If I did this for her, I’d have to do it NOW before I get any older and my eggs deteriorate, but luckily I’m not out of the age window to have healthy eggs right now. I am, however, not in any financial position to do this, though I hear that there may be options to help with that and will look into them if it seems like a good idea.
So… basically I’m just curious to see what the reaction to the idea is, here in this community. I’m leaning towards “probably unnecessary and maybe even a bit weird” but… if someday my daughter wanted it, I’d hate to say I passed up the opportunity to help her.
EDIT: Secondary question, but related. I am in contact with a young transwoman who does have frozen sperm and wants to have biological children. She is not in a good financial place for in vitro, surrogate, all that. I am not comfortable being a surrogate but would be willing to donate eggs to her for free (no reimbursement for my time, and willing to travel to work within her free healthcare system) but I don’t know her that well and don’t know if it’s appropriate to offer or weird? I’ve donated eggs in the past to an anonymous couple, so I know how it works and what to expect. I just don’t know whether it’s something to offer or not. I don’t want to make someone feel weird or obligated… but it could eliminate a portion of the cost, and I have a good track record – I’ve successfully donated before, and have three healthy children. Just not sure how or whether to approach it, I guess…
Link here ... there are also some comments which I have not had time to digest ... gendertrender.wordpress.com/2015...ir-mother/
I would be very interested in any comment. It ties in with something I might do in my next video and any thoughts most welcome before I do that video ...
Is what she's talking about "puberty blockers" etc ... sterilisation of a child even legal? Naive ... I cannot believe this ...
