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Post by connacht4096 on Sept 29, 2021 21:04:11 GMT
this is just a question I think is kind of interesting. sometimes you find people who are "right by accident". that means that most of what they are saying is wrong, but a small, but significant, part of it (sometimes just one or two matters) is actually correct. when someone is right by accident it is kind of strange. to be right by accident you do not need sound principles, accurate logic, or correct facts; the distinguishing feature of people who are correct this way is that about one or two things they have nailed it, but everything else is nonsense. I am curious, have any of you run into notable cases of people being right by accident about one or two things?
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Post by kj on Sept 30, 2021 11:17:15 GMT
Ironically, I find most of what you post to be nonsensical and fantastical, and I'm still not sure if you aren't a troll trying to drive people to incriminate themselves. Yet in that spirit I confess to sharing your dislike of Anglicanism and the Church of Ireland. I certainly wouldn't physically persecute them (or anyone else) in the manner you were advocating, but I do regard them as a colonial blight upon Ireland, and in my experience most of the ones I've met seem to define themselves by their hatred of Catholicism and their sense of superiority to the average Irish person. So there, you're the answer to your own question!  |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 30, 2021 11:19:33 GMT
Feminists (at least, anti-pornography feminists) are right about pornography, but not much else.
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Post by cato on Sept 30, 2021 18:22:20 GMT
Theres truth in the cliche that a broken clock gets the time right twice every 24 hours.
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Post by cato on Sept 30, 2021 18:24:31 GMT
Ironically, I find most of what you post to be nonsensical and fantastical, and I'm still not sure if you aren't a troll trying to drive people to incriminate themselves. Yet in that spirit I confess to sharing your dislike of Anglicanism and the Church of Ireland. I certainly wouldn't physically persecute them (or anyone else) in the manner you were advocating, but I do regard them as a colonial blight upon Ireland, and in my experience most of the ones I've met seem to define themselves by their hatred of Catholicism and their sense of superiority to the average Irish person. So there, you're the answer to your own question! I agree with with the views expressed in part of the above and disagree with the remainder. |
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Post by Séamus on Oct 3, 2021 11:41:39 GMT
this is just a question I think is kind of interesting. sometimes you find people who are "right by accident". that means that most of what they are saying is wrong, but a small, but significant, part of it (sometimes just one or two matters) is actually correct. when someone is right by accident it is kind of strange. to be right by accident you do not need sound principles, accurate logic, or correct facts; the distinguishing feature of people who are correct this way is that about one or two things they have nailed it, but everything else is nonsense. I am curious, have any of you run into notable cases of people being right by accident about one or two things? From a Sunday newspaper today: "China will reportedly ban video games that do not promote correct values and accurate understanding understanding of the country's history and culture,a leaked internal document shows. That includes a ban on any portrayal of effeminate males,the promotion of same-sex relationships and characters with no clear gender..." Draconian communism or remnants of a decency that predates socialism? Either way,are the measures any more draconian than the opposing ones often used in our western society? These days not only do we witness recently-Catholic nations embrace free abortion laws,now San Marino,but find that conscientious objection,such as that doctors in Spain,even the signature name of Mother Aikenhead's sisters seems unwelcome,just as significant parts of constitutionally-secular America and some parts of formerly communist Europe push in the opposing direction,even China admitting that termination numbers need to drop. Recollections of the feminist mob verbally turning on some of their own in recent years- Margaret Atwood for suggesting that men accused of sexual harrassment should be considered innocent until proven guilty, Germaine Greer for stating the obvious fact that transgender people still have the hormones of the gender they were born and JK Rowling for daring to criticize restroom politics- come to mind also (maybe the ancient Greeks had a deeper philosophical point with the Pandora legend- can it be a natural part of life's cycle that we end up being turned upon by the very thing we unleashed?). |
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Post by Séamus on Feb 3, 2022 4:20:27 GMT
"Whoopi Goldberg has been suspended from US TV show The View for two weeks after saying the Holocaust..."...isn't about race...it's about man's inhumanity to man. These are two white groups of people' " cf Feb 3 west aus newspaper
Thus we see the latest feminist pro-abortionist eaten up by her own progressive fanbase. I'm not declaring her RIGHT per se- while Christian deaths under Nazism have always been understated, the targeting of Jews and the validity of considering Jews as a race is hard to deny.
It be noted that this same lady on this same show declared about ten years ago that "Irish people are Catholics- you stay away from them",while discussing how a (Northern, possibly protestant) farmer drove an American tv-commercial production from his farm with a pitchfork.
While America's ABC makes disclaimers and apologies for Ms Goldberg to Jewish Americans,JK Rowling still finds herself uninvited to and un-patronized by Harry Potter events and inspired groups because of her watered-down questioning of the use of transgender-friendly terms. Her home has reportedly been vandalized even.
No sympathy for either woman,but you wonder if we're living in history's next totalitarian regime.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Feb 3, 2022 9:11:57 GMT
"Whoopi Goldberg has been suspended from US TV show The View for two weeks after saying the Holocaust..."...isn't about race...it's about man's inhumanity to man. These are two white groups of people' " cf Feb 3 west aus newspaper Thus we see the latest feminist pro-abortionist eaten up by her own progressive fanbase. I'm not declaring her RIGHT per se- while Christian deaths under Nazism have always been understated, the targeting of Jews and the validity of considering Jews as a race is hard to deny. It be noted that this same lady on this same show declared about ten years ago that "Irish people are Catholics- you stay away from them",while discussing how a (Northern, possibly protestant) farmer drove an American tv-commercial production from his farm with a pitchfork. While America's ABC makes disclaimers and apologies for Ms Goldberg to Jewish Americans,JK Rowling still finds herself uninvited to and un-patronized by Harry Potter events and inspired groups because of her watered-down questioning of the use of transgender-friendly terms. Her home has reportedly been vandalized even. No sympathy for either woman,but you wonder if we're living in history's next totalitarian regime. I have a lot of sympathy for J.K. Rowling, I think she's been very brave and admirable in her stance. She's obviously someone with strong convictions. When she wrote the Harry Potter series, those convictions obviously harmonized with the culture. Now they don't, but she's stuck to her guns. I actually think there's a lot of wholesome conservative values in the Potter books. "Race" has become a meaningless word. Are the Jews a race? I don't even know what the politically-correct answer is. Famously, the Nazis were unable to find a conherent basis on which to discriminate against them biologically, so they had to resort to a religious basis. The Irish used to be called a race, by themselves, without controversy. Generally it's used to mean skin colour these days. Maybe we should talk about pigmentism instead of racism. Seems clearer. |
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Post by cato on Feb 3, 2022 11:15:25 GMT
Generally it's used to mean skin colour these days. Maybe we should talk about pigmentism instead of racism. Seems clearer.[/quote]
Maolsheachlann I need to call you out on your unconscious racism. People are not restricted to invented ,imaginary, male imposed categories like skin colour . They can choose to self identify as a minority group member if they really feel strongly about it.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Feb 3, 2022 12:58:03 GMT
Generally it's used to mean skin colour these days. Maybe we should talk about pigmentism instead of racism. Seems clearer. Maolsheachlann I need to call you out on your unconscious racism. People are not restricted to invented ,imaginary, male imposed categories like skin colour . They can choose to self identify as a minority group member if they really feel strongly about it. [/quote] Cato, you are quite right! And I congratulate you on your vigilance. I am now banning myself from the forum for several hours! |
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Post by Séamus on Aug 17, 2022 9:05:20 GMT
"My impression of Liz Truss has nosedived. She says she wants a 20% reduction in crime and then she wants to criminalise wolf-whistling. How does putting extra burdens on the police lead to a reduction in crime?....Rishi by contrast talks about freedom of speech by law...so which do I prefer? To live in a country with high taxes but freedom of speech or a country with low taxes,no-platforming and a nanny police state?" Ann Widdecombe recently.
Two recent celebrity deaths have relevance to this subject.
Even before NewtonJohn's demise there was some public debate about Grease and how appropriate it is or isn't,for highschool plays for example. I can remember Grease Barbie dolls being marketed on the film's (some sort of)anniversary some years ago which is targeting an even younger group.
As immorality-per se doesn't exist for most of these people,the cry is 'sexist'.
I'm not sure that I've actually ever watched the film;a plot that imagines a 1950s teen discard her swing-skirt for spandex tights and a '70s perm is an absurdity obviously; there seems no precedent in Shakespeare for this either. Girls were still getting caned for turning up to schools in hotpants or putting outlandish dyes in their hair in the early-70s (I've been told factual stories of these things, perhaps America was 30 years ahead?!.) But,like the miniskirt,I'm guessing Olivia Newton John was seen as liberating at the time,only for her most famous role to become sexist as years go by and then conveniently feminist again now that the need to celebrate the life of Olivia arises. If date-rape was alluded to it doesn't seem to have caused any major boycott of the blockbuster,even during the height of the sexual liberated 1970s. You're The One That I Want, incidentally, reached the top of the Irish charts also.
Recently deceased Nichellle Nichols of Star Trek apparently counted Martin Luther King among her fans;her Shatner kiss is often (we might all say 'happily') reputed to be the first interracial intimacy on tv... I wonder how celebrated it would be today- was there full consent or did the aliens have her altogether too groggy to receive the smooch?
It's perhaps not a matter of there being no moral compass in today's world but more a case of a compass without a N,S,E or W,with a hand that spins around madly without really knowing why.
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Post by cato on Aug 17, 2022 10:11:49 GMT
"My impression of Liz Truss has nosedived. She says she wants a 20% reduction in crime and then she wants to criminalise wolf-whistling. How does putting extra burdens on the police lead to a reduction in crime?....Rishi by contrast talks about freedom of speech by law...so which do I prefer? To live in a country with high taxes but freedom of speech or a country with low taxes,no-platforming and a nanny police state?" Ann Widdecombe recently. Two recent celebrity deaths have relevance to this subject. Even before NewtonJohn's demise there was some public debate about Grease and how appropriate it is or isn't,for highschool plays for example. I can remember Grease Barbie dolls being marketed on the film's (some sort of)anniversary some years ago which is targeting an even younger group. As immorality-per se doesn't exist for most of these people,the cry is 'sexist'. I'm not sure that I've actually ever watched the film;a plot that imagines a 1950s teen discard her swing-skirt for spandex tights and a '70s perm is an absurdity obviously; there seems no precedent in Shakespeare for this either. Girls were still getting caned for turning up to schools in hotpants or putting outlandish dyes in their hair in the early-70s (I've been told factual stories of these things, perhaps America was 30 years ahead?!.) But,like the miniskirt,I'm guessing Olivia Newton John was seen as liberating at the time,only for her most famous role to become sexist as years go by and then conveniently feminist again now that the need to celebrate the life of Olivia arises. If date-rape was alluded to it doesn't seem to have caused any major boycott of the blockbuster,even during the height of the sexual liberated 1970s. You're The One That I Want, incidentally, reached the top of the Irish charts also. Recently deceased Nichellle Nichols of Star Trek apparently counted Martin Luther King among her fans;her Shatner kiss is often (we might all say 'happily') reputed to be the first interracial intimacy on tv... I wonder how celebrated it would be today- was there full consent or did the aliens have her altogether too groggy to receive the smooch? It's perhaps not a matter of there being no moral compass in today's world but more a case of a compass without a N,S,E or W,with a hand that spins around madly without really knowing why. Truss seems to be a pale reflection of the Iron Lady with all her vices but none of her virtues or charisma. Sunak is more impressive but is a multimillionaire which will be a distinct disadvantage in politics in these inflationary times. Other than Brexit, humiliation in Afghanistan and a mixed record dealing with the last financial crash and Covid the Tories leave a rather meagre legacy for almost 12 years in power. Johnstons reign was particularly disappointing. He spent a lifetime seeking power and then seemed to have no idea what to do with it when he arrived. The democratic world seems devoid of strong principled leaders at present. |
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Post by Séamus on Aug 21, 2022 3:06:16 GMT
"My impression of Liz Truss has nosedived. She says she wants a 20% reduction in crime and then she wants to criminalise wolf-whistling. How does putting extra burdens on the police lead to a reduction in crime?....Rishi by contrast talks about freedom of speech by law...so which do I prefer? To live in a country with high taxes but freedom of speech or a country with low taxes,no-platforming and a nanny police state?" Ann Widdecombe recently. Two recent celebrity deaths have relevance to this subject. Even before NewtonJohn's demise there was some public debate about Grease and how appropriate it is or isn't,for highschool plays for example. I can remember Grease Barbie dolls being marketed on the film's (some sort of)anniversary some years ago which is targeting an even younger group. As immorality-per se doesn't exist for most of these people,the cry is 'sexist'. I'm not sure that I've actually ever watched the film;a plot that imagines a 1950s teen discard her swing-skirt for spandex tights and a '70s perm is an absurdity obviously; there seems no precedent in Shakespeare for this either. Girls were still getting caned for turning up to schools in hotpants or putting outlandish dyes in their hair in the early-70s (I've been told factual stories of these things, perhaps America was 30 years ahead?!.) But,like the miniskirt,I'm guessing Olivia Newton John was seen as liberating at the time,only for her most famous role to become sexist as years go by and then conveniently feminist again now that the need to celebrate the life of Olivia arises. If date-rape was alluded to it doesn't seem to have caused any major boycott of the blockbuster,even during the height of the sexual liberated 1970s. You're The One That I Want, incidentally, reached the top of the Irish charts also. Recently deceased Nichellle Nichols of Star Trek apparently counted Martin Luther King among her fans;her Shatner kiss is often (we might all say 'happily') reputed to be the first interracial intimacy on tv... I wonder how celebrated it would be today- was there full consent or did the aliens have her altogether too groggy to receive the smooch? It's perhaps not a matter of there being no moral compass in today's world but more a case of a compass without a N,S,E or W,with a hand that spins around madly without really knowing why. Truss seems to be a pale reflection of the Iron Lady with all her vices but none of her virtues or charisma. Sunak is more impressive but is a multimillionaire which will be a distinct disadvantage in politics in these inflationary times. Other than Brexit, humiliation in Afghanistan and a mixed record dealing with the last financial crash and Covid the Tories leave a rather meagre legacy for almost 12 years in power. Johnstons reign was particularly disappointing. He spent a lifetime seeking power and then seemed to have no idea what to do with it when he arrived. The democratic world seems devoid of strong principled leaders at present. If I might venture a prediction, it's hard to imagine the tenancy for quotas and feminist-driven selection causing anything besides a drop in the quality of female stateswomen. Golda Meir,Thatcher,even dynasty-based Bhutto and Ghandi, had substance, whether you agree with the substance or not, because they competed with males on level playing fields. Hard to see any comparisons with ladies or ethnic representatives that spring up in our box-ticking era. There's already concerns among the American left about the actual quality of Kamala Harris. Then there's Finland's "she's a bee-bop-baby on a hard day's night", as a potential world war edges towards her border. |
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Post by Séamus on Aug 27, 2022 12:47:36 GMT
"My impression of Liz Truss has nosedived. She says she wants a 20% reduction in crime and then she wants to criminalise wolf-whistling. How does putting extra burdens on the police lead to a reduction in crime?....Rishi by contrast talks about freedom of speech by law...so which do I prefer? To live in a country with high taxes but freedom of speech or a country with low taxes,no-platforming and a nanny police state?" Ann Widdecombe recently. Two recent celebrity deaths have relevance to this subject. Even before NewtonJohn's demise there was some public debate about Grease and how appropriate it is or isn't,for highschool plays for example. I can remember Grease Barbie dolls being marketed on the film's (some sort of)anniversary some years ago which is targeting an even younger group. As immorality-per se doesn't exist for most of these people,the cry is 'sexist'. I'm not sure that I've actually ever watched the film;a plot that imagines a 1950s teen discard her swing-skirt for spandex tights and a '70s perm is an absurdity obviously; there seems no precedent in Shakespeare for this either. Girls were still getting caned for turning up to schools in hotpants or putting outlandish dyes in their hair in the early-70s (I've been told factual stories of these things, perhaps America was 30 years ahead?!.) But,like the miniskirt,I'm guessing Olivia Newton John was seen as liberating at the time,only for her most famous role to become sexist as years go by and then conveniently feminist again now that the need to celebrate the life of Olivia arises. If date-rape was alluded to it doesn't seem to have caused any major boycott of the blockbuster,even during the height of the sexual liberated 1970s. You're The One That I Want, incidentally, reached the top of the Irish charts also. Recently deceased Nichellle Nichols of Star Trek apparently counted Martin Luther King among her fans;her Shatner kiss is often (we might all say 'happily') reputed to be the first interracial intimacy on tv... I wonder how celebrated it would be today- was there full consent or did the aliens have her altogether too groggy to receive the smooch? It's perhaps not a matter of there being no moral compass in today's world but more a case of a compass without a N,S,E or W,with a hand that spins around madly without really knowing why. Truss seems to be a pale reflection of the Iron Lady with all her vices but none of her virtues or charisma. Sunak is more impressive but is a multimillionaire which will be a distinct disadvantage in politics in these inflationary times. Other than Brexit, humiliation in Afghanistan and a mixed record dealing with the last financial crash and Covid the Tories leave a rather meagre legacy for almost 12 years in power. Johnstons reign was particularly disappointing. He spent a lifetime seeking power and then seemed to have no idea what to do with it when he arrived. The democratic world seems devoid of strong principled leaders at present. Notwithstanding two Dublin-born prime ministers before the Easter Uprising and one named Callaghan after it, had Liz taken her husband's name, a Prime Minister O'Leary over Westminster would seem as extraordinary as a PM Rishi. I only became aware recently(or didn't give it attention at the time) of her past extramarital affair with a married mp. For all the feminist victim-mentality,I wonder would her male fellow protagonist have found his behaviour become a non-issue also had he now been the current contender? How about a male Finnish PM who harboured nude lesbians in his bathroom? The recent release of a man-eater lion film with an AfroEnglish lead actor begs much comparison with Victorian Irishman John Henry Patterson and his role in the Tsavo lion saga, often the inspiration for books and film also. The change in era for a nation that could send Indian labourers to another part of it's Empire, safe from the international outage that would erupt today were a score of migrant workers chewed to death, to say nothing of the change in relationship with between the two nations. As the recent euthanasia of a walrus on Norway shows, putting down an animal which is considered a danger to human life is still considered acceptable. I should think Colonel JH would today have to write an environmental report out, rather than pose next to the sad spectacle of the beast's carcass. The question of two wild mane-less alpha male lions would no doubt be taken up by psychologists in Tavistock Clinic. Luckily the Irishman can also considered himself a visionary in virtue of his support for a Jewish State in Palestine. |
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Post by Tomas on Mar 2, 2023 8:31:14 GMT
this is just a question I think is kind of interesting. sometimes you find people who are "right by accident". that means that most of what they are saying is wrong, but a small, but significant, part of it (sometimes just one or two matters) is actually correct. when someone is right by accident it is kind of strange. to be right by accident you do not need sound principles, accurate logic, or correct facts; the distinguishing feature of people who are correct this way is that about one or two things they have nailed it, but everything else is nonsense. I am curious, have any of you run into notable cases of people being right by accident about one or two things? Trump critics were wrong in much or most of their dislikes. Trump fans on the other hand were often wrong in praising him above every limit, but - here my answer to the post - also the poor good underdogs were at least right in dissing his support for the mRNA vaxx coup. Controlled opposition or not that was a proved disgusting mainstream follow the leader stance if there ever was one. (In conclusion thus, he evidently was not the extremist he was pointed out to be. Disturbingly independent controversial figure yes, extremist game changer no...) |
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