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Post by Maolsheachlann on May 13, 2017 13:22:12 GMT
I'd encountered this blog before, and accidentally came across it again today. It's only one blog out of millions, to be fair, but it's rather worrying that it's quite active and popular, to judge from the number of comments. It really sometimes seems that modern Europe, especially, has chosen death. Not only in the extreme cases of people who believe it's immoral to bring life into the world, or in the rather more mainstream support for euthanasia and assisted suicide and abortion, but also in a generalised sense of decadence and living for the moment. European cultures don't seem to want to propagate themselves, either, or look towards a posterity-- either in a literal or a cultural sense. I'm not equating that with antinatalism, but one could see comparisons.
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Post by melancholicus on May 13, 2017 15:28:48 GMT
What blog are you referring to?
Edit: Just now found the link now in your post. Maolsheachlann, might I suggest coloring hyperlinks so they stand out from the general text?
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Post by Maolsheachlann on May 13, 2017 15:47:41 GMT
Good idea, Melancholicus...thanks. I did worry when I was posting it that I had left it too oblique.
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Post by melancholicus on May 13, 2017 15:57:05 GMT
That blog is so miserable and depressing it reminds me of the first time I encountered Camus, and I'm not at all surprised to find Camus referenced on the blog.
There are many reasons why our contemporaries are not having children, or else not having enough children: prolonged immaturity even into adulthood; the easy availability of relationships providing many of the comforts of marriage without the attendant responsibilities; alienation, uprootedness and disconnectedness from identity and community being inimical to stable family formation; the toxic influence of third-wave feminism; property prices out of control, cost of living out of control; the necessity of having two incomes in order to provide for a family all combine to discourage both marriage and child-rearing. Those who do reproduce at higher levels seem to be those living long-term on social welfare, and these almost never provide a stable family environment, inasmuch as they are often single-parent efforts with children by several different mothers/fathers.
The relentless propaganda against the traditional family and its accompanying economic meddling, which has been going on for decades, has resulted in births declining below replacement level in all European countries. This has been followed more recently by the importing of teeming millions of 'refugees' from the third world. (The two are not unconnected, and I wonder if the latter was in fact part of the plan all along)
The blogger has raised anti-natalism to a philosophical, almost dogmatic, level. Not everyone who chooses not to have children (or who positively refuses to procreate) is opposed to procreation for the same reasons advanced on the blog, and I think his hyper-intellectualized pessimism ought to be a turn-off for many. I wonder if the level of interest it has generated derives from the climate of nihilism and despair that prevails (chiefly among younger people) at the present time.
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Post by cato on May 25, 2017 21:18:04 GMT
George Weigel over on Catholic World Report has an interesting article on population decline and how many European leaders are childless.
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Post by Stephen on May 26, 2017 10:04:15 GMT
Could you leave a link to the article? Thanks
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Post by Maolsheachlann on May 26, 2017 10:12:01 GMT
Here it is.Of course, you can't assume that a childless leader didn't want children. It could be something they wanted more than anything but that never happened.
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Post by cato on May 26, 2017 12:19:40 GMT
I agree with your last point about assuming a childless couple chose not to have children. 2 of my siblings have had children at the drop of a hat, one has had great difficulty and another hasn't been able to conceive at all. We need to be very careful when singling out individuals and making lazy and perhaps insensitive judgements.
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Post by assisi on May 10, 2020 21:53:44 GMT
I'd encountered this blog before, and accidentally came across it again today. It's only one blog out of millions, to be fair, but it's rather worrying that it's quite active and popular, to judge from the number of comments. It really sometimes seems that modern Europe, especially, has chosen death. Not only in the extreme cases of people who believe it's immoral to bring life into the world, or in the rather more mainstream support for euthanasia and assisted suicide and abortion, but also in a generalised sense of decadence and living for the moment. European cultures don't seem to want to propagate themselves, either, or look towards a posterity-- either in a literal or a cultural sense. I'm not equating that with antinatalism, but one could see comparisons. True to its essence, the blog mentioned above, 'saynotolife' has gone the way of its title and is no more.
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