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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 20, 2017 18:37:09 GMT
Ha ha. Love it.
What Catholic hasn't puzzled over what counts as a "collation?"
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Post by Séamus on Jul 23, 2017 9:04:54 GMT
Ireland's relation to U2, like our relation to God, alcohol, and the British, is a complicated and often troubled one. U2 may have kept Ireland on the ' rock map' and, it must be said, there is a bit of cultural Irishness about them-remember recording THE UNFORGETTABLE FIRE in a castle?-but they pale in comparison to groups like Clannad,Altan,Lúnasa, etc when it comes to contributing to Irish language, music and culture. Non-Irish people can be amazed also at the amount of talent within families such as the Brennans/Duggans (Clannad), the Corrs, the Blacks etc. (curious whether any Irish families of the next generation will produce anything similar). And yet the death of Pádraig Duggan last year didn't seem to produce a huge stir.(imagine if someone even slightly connected with U2 or Westlife passed on) The last recording I'm aware of that he composed was SENTANTA from NÁDUR |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 23, 2017 10:48:16 GMT
How about Mr. Tayto as a national institution? Do culchies still call crisps Taytos? In Ballymun, they are crips, of course. "A package of crips". Attachments:
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 23, 2017 10:51:39 GMT
Let's keep right up to date and remember #COYBIG
The present is just a past that has not yet attained the dignity of history.
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Post by Séamus on Jul 23, 2017 11:41:25 GMT
How about Mr. Tayto as a national institution? Do culchies still call crisps Taytos? In Ballymun, they are crips, of course. "A package of crips". The travel pages of the West Australian once had a two page story about visiting the Tayto factory in Northern Ireland. They explained that the republic's factory was now in Poland. No matter how long my mother has lived in Australia she still refers to CRISPS as TAYTOS, perhaps largely through not eating or buying them enough to bother changing the word. |
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Post by Stephen on Jul 24, 2017 10:24:12 GMT
Does anyone know a good book of Irish traditions?
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Post by Séamus on Jul 24, 2017 10:34:34 GMT
Does anyone know a good book of Irish traditions? TREASURY OF IRISH FOLKLORE by Padraic Colum is one of come across, but it was published in the 50s. The autobiography of theatre actor Éamon Kelly published in 95 is good. And, the autobiographies of Michaél O' Muircheartaigh and Michael O' Hehir, both 90s also to a lesser extent. |
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Post by Stephen on Jul 24, 2017 10:41:04 GMT
Just ordered TREASURY OF IRISH FOLKLORE by Padraic Colum.  |
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Post by Séamus on Jul 30, 2017 14:02:17 GMT
I may have missed it, but I don't think anyone has mentioned the puck fair. I'd imagine animal welfare groups these days would frown upon the idea of locking a billy-goat up in a cage for too long.
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Post by Séamus on Aug 12, 2017 3:21:26 GMT
Reuters put out a news article this week about the puck fair, so they're still crowning goats in Killorglin and,by the look of it, people still love it
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Post by Séamus on Aug 22, 2017 6:02:07 GMT
Reuters has just reported on a tradition that was new to me: The Cruinniu na mBad festival in Kinvara, being -rowing races on bundles of seaweed called 'climin'
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 21, 2017 10:14:08 GMT
As long as I can remember, there has been late-night opening in Dublin shops on Thursday evening. Is this a Dublin tradition, an Irish tradition or an international tradition? I have no idea.
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Post by Séamus on Sept 21, 2017 11:28:03 GMT
As long as I can remember, there has been late-night opening in Dublin shops on Thursday evening. Is this a Dublin tradition, an Irish tradition or an international tradition? I have no idea. Australia has it also. It used to be Thursday nights in Perth everywhere, then it changed sometime in the City to Friday nights, but it's still Thursday everywhere else. It's hard to compare Dublin with Perth. The inner city here plays a smaller role, except as a place for white-collar workers. Shopping centres are generally more important for shopping. A young man from Goan background that went to the recent Dublin Eucharistic Congress remarked to me what large crowds there seemed to be in the city in Dublin. (is that ecclesial trivia?) My mother's two Dublin-based sisters used to ALWAYS meet for Thursday night shopping, as they're both grandmothers now they probably have other things to do with themselves. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 21, 2017 13:13:50 GMT
I have integrated all the suggestions into a single list, although I had to mull over what counts as a "tradition" and didn't include everything. Are U2 an Irish tradition? Is red hair an Irish tradition? I decided U2 weren't a "tradition", but red hair was. I agree that's pretty arbitrary. I've also only included lapsed traditions where I felt there was some possibility of their revival. Finally, I've only included stuff that's distinctively (not necessarily exclusively) Irish.
I'm also going to post this on my blog, if nobody has any objections to that-- I'll mention that many of the suggestions come from members of this forum.
servantofthechief, did you mean burning the Jack, or the joker in a deck of cards? Which Jack? I've heard of taking the joker out of the pack, but not burning the jack.
Sport
Gaelic Football
Hurling
The Munster Hurling Final
Rounders
Road bowling
Rugby, especially in Limerick
Boxing
Horse racing and horse breeding
Supporting English soccer teams
The John 3:7 placard that sports fan carries to games
Swimming in the forty-foot.
Making speeches after winning the All-Ireland
The social media hashtag #COYBIG (Come On You Boys in Green)
Music and Dance
Irish traditional music
Sean-nós singing
Irish folk ballads
Tin whistle
Uileann pipes
Lilting
Ceilidhs
Set dancing
Lúibíní, whatever the hell they are
Country music, in some areas. (I hear it is a way of life in some towns. Is that true?)
Language
The Irish language
Shelta
The various dialects
Yola and Old Fingalian (well, these are more memories than traditions, but I'll put them in anyway)
Hiberno-English, which deserves a section all of its own
South Armagh slang: 'Deadly' means cool or impressive, and the archtypical 'Go on ya good thing' and the famous South Armagh 'shout'. 'Beur' for a girl, 'fien or fiend' for a boy, 'yoke' for a car
Sculpture
Giving rhyming names to Dublin statues (the Floozy in the Jacuzzi, the pr---- with the sick, the hags with the bags, the tart with the cart, etc.) No name for the Millennium Spire ever stuck, despite many efforts. Also used for at least one monument in Belfast, the "Balls in the Falls".
Visual arts
Celtic knotwork
Pre-Celtic spirals
Hiberno-Romanesque architecture
John Hinde postcards
Literature
The Irish literary tradition in general.
Short-story writing (Sean O'Faolain, Mary Lavin, and others.)
Winning the Nobel Prize for literature (four times)
Food and Drink
Corned beef, cabbage and potatoes (puke puke)
A full Irish breakfast (which is...?)
Colcannon on Halloween
Red, white and orange ice-cream and jelly on St. Patrick's Day
Barmbrack
Tea. Strong tea, especially in rural areas. Lyons and Barry's.
Irish whiskey
Red lemonade
Cadet Orange
Cavan Cola. (I understand this is no longer produced but there are campaigns to revive it, so I will keep it in.)
Guinness
Irish stew
Dublin coddle
Friend breakfast at Bewley's
Dulsk (chewable seaweed)
Poteen
Politics
Catch-all parties
Clientelism and parish pump politics
The two-and-a-half party system
Small, breakaway parties that are successful for a while and then disappear
Splits. ("The first item on the agenda of every Irish organization is the split.")
Political dynasties and family politics: People generally vote the way their extended family votes with divisions usually not talked about within the family and the tendency for people of the same families being elected generation after generation. Neither of these are unique to Irish politics, but they are VERY noticeable in our political discourse
Broadcasting
The Late-Late Toy Show
The Late Late Show itself
The dawn chorus on Mooney Goes Wild
Dustin the turkey
Shows in the format of Scrap Saturday
Events
Bloomsday
The Rose of Tralee
The Galway Races
The Ploughing Championships
The Young Scientist Awards
St. Patrick's Day
Nollaig na mBan/Little Christmas
St. Brigit's Day
The summer solstice in Newgrange
The Twelfth of July
Reek Sunday
St. Patrick's Day parade, including the wearing of St. Patrick's Day shamrock
Culture Night
Halloween (and Irish tradition itself)
Mummery - the tradition of playing practical jokes and pranks for the sake of personal honour among young men. May just be an Ulsterian or Co.Louth variation, as I Mummery is the name of another, entirely different practice elsewhere in Ireland involving people stuffing straw up their shirts.
Halloween bonfires
Halloween costumes
Pumpkin carving (originally turip carving.)
Death
The Irish wake
"I'm sorry for your troubles"
Education
The "debs"
The colours debate between Trinity and UCD
Social Life
Pretending not to see famous people
"You're very good" expression
The Irish mammy-- matriarch in working class areas (at least she used to be)
Wren boys
Irish names such as Sinéad, Cormac, etc.
Going to the Gaeltacht
Religion
Standing at the back of church at Mass
Taking the straw from the Christmas crib
The Irish monastic tradition
First Communion madness
St. Brigid's Cross
St. Patrick's Day being a "break" from Lent
Calling the day after Christmas St. Stephen's Day (not Boxing Day, as in Commonwealth countries)
Lough Derg pilgrimage
Croagh Patrick pilgrimage
Sitting on the backmost kneelers during the 'sitting down' portions of Mass, then standing and kneeling at the appropriate parts, since its wrong to sit on the floor and it doesn't 'make sense' to be standing all the time when there's a perfectly good seat right there.
Superstitions
Burning the joker of a newly bought/opened pack of cards because its bad luck
Not killing spiders because they are 'lucky' in the sense that they 'prevent' bad luck by killing pests such as flies and other lesser insects. I think this might just be an Ulsterian superstition.
Not picking up a comb left lying on the ground, as it may belong to a banshee
Folk cures, including holy wells
Travelling to the house of a person with a healing prayer, for ailments such as a wart, having their hands raised over you and a prayer said by them, then being directed to a well to apply some of the well water. Certainly in Wicklow, possibly Cavan and Leitrim.
Clothes and jewellery
Aran sweaters
Cloth caps
Tara brooch replicas
Claddagh ring
The Irish language fáinne (ring-brooch), indicating you speak Irish
Pioneer pins
Trench coats
Folklore
Banshees
Fairy forts and the Shee in general
Tir na nÓg
The Hell Fire Club in the Dublin mountains, and the legends attached to it
The Ulster Cycle
The Fae
The Children of Lir
The Book of Invasions
The Otherwold, including Tir Na n-Óg
Nomenclature
Nicknaming people named Christopher "Git"
The nickname "Joxer"
Transport
Aer Lingus vs. Ryanair
The Morris Minor
Miscelleanous
Carroll's cigarettes (still made?)
Bórd na Mona peat briquettes
President's cheque to centenarians
Begrudgery
The Irish weather, and talking about the weather
The Irish diaspora
Red hair
Blue eyes
Sunburn
Freckles
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Post by servantofthechief on Sept 21, 2017 14:59:07 GMT
I think it might have been the joker upon reflection, as it makes more sense being the odd card out.
Also I don't think red hair is an Irish tradition as much as it is a genetic characteristic.
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