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Post by Séamus on Jul 11, 2018 8:14:44 GMT
br] He was technically an Australian, but I thought it was pertinent to ask here whether anyone reads priest-poet John O'Brien? He is actually quoted on the inside front cover of the latest issue of Annals Australasia. I didn't know he wrote the collection Around the Boree Log. I've sometimes flicked through in the library (not actually taking it from the shelf, just flicking through it). I'm not sure how often he's mentioned in Australia either. I've seen him included in a beautifully bound, two volume collection of the main Australian poets, but that was published back in the 80s. I've come across some homeschooled families that read him also. Did you see the one about the priest's housekeeper? "...And yet no sthreel was Josephine,for quick she was to note My native country's colours coming gently through my coat I teased her- said she ought to like the wearing of the green She couldn't see the joke at all, poor solemn Josephine..... How quickly have the days gone by-she's dead now: Let me see She's dead twelve months, tomorrow is her anniversary Now who's the saint tomorrow? Ah! a semi- Hedwig (Queen) I'll use the black! And may God rest the soul of Josephine"
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 11, 2018 8:57:21 GMT
He is actually quoted on the inside front cover of the latest issue of Annals Australasia. I didn't know he wrote the collection Around the Boree Log. I've sometimes flicked through in the library (not actually taking it from the shelf, just flicking through it). I'm not sure how often he's mentioned in Australia either. I've seen him included in a beautifully bound, two volume collection of the main Australian poets, but that was published back in the 80s. I've come across some homeschooled families that read him also. Did you see the one about the priest's housekeeper? "...And yet no sthreel was Josephine,for quick she was to note My native country's colours coming gently through my coat I teased her- said she ought to like the wearing of the green She couldn't see the joke at all, poor solemn Josephine..... How quickly have the days gone by-she's dead now: Let me see She's dead twelve months, tomorrow is her anniversary Now who's the saint tomorrow? Ah! a semi- Hedwig (Queen) I'll use the black! And may God rest the soul of Josephine" No! It can't be called great poetry, I wonder if it can even be called poetry at all. It's more rhymed prose. But it's better than a lot of what's called poetry (and great poetry!) today.
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Post by Séamus on Jul 11, 2018 9:32:45 GMT
I'm not sure how often he's mentioned in Australia either. I've seen him included in a beautifully bound, two volume collection of the main Australian poets, but that was published back in the 80s. I've come across some homeschooled families that read him also. Did you see the one about the priest's housekeeper? "...And yet no sthreel was Josephine,for quick she was to note My native country's colours coming gently through my coat I teased her- said she ought to like the wearing of the green She couldn't see the joke at all, poor solemn Josephine..... How quickly have the days gone by-she's dead now: Let me see She's dead twelve months, tomorrow is her anniversary Now who's the saint tomorrow? Ah! a semi- Hedwig (Queen) I'll use the black! And may God rest the soul of Josephine" No! It can't be called great poetry, I wonder if it can even be called poetry at all. It's more rhymed prose. But it's better than a lot of what's called poetry (and great poetry!) today. People probably like it more for the largely forgotten, rustic past that it portrays
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 11, 2018 10:06:23 GMT
No! It can't be called great poetry, I wonder if it can even be called poetry at all. It's more rhymed prose. But it's better than a lot of what's called poetry (and great poetry!) today. People probably like it more for the largely forgotten, rustic past that it portrays Agreed. (I edited your post to correct a spelling mistake I made in the words of mine you quoted.)
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Post by Antaine on Jul 15, 2018 11:46:23 GMT
I would like to propose a very modern Irish custom:
Acting like a mindless, self-important, attention-seeking sycophant; especially towards US regressives.
The amount of people in this country virtue signalling over Donald Trump is bordering on irritating now. I used to, from time to time, call out an old friend of mine for that. One of the reasons that led to him cutting ties with me, I imagine.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 15, 2018 13:20:06 GMT
I have cut ties with people over politics and the culture wars. It seems to have ramped up in recent years; or maybe I have just gone further to the right. But I don't think I have.
I think it's a bona fide tradition, though; Patrick Kavanagh commented on it, back in the day.
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Post by Séamus on Jul 16, 2018 12:09:23 GMT
An Anglo-Indian gentleman who has worked as a chef for many years in the Newfoundland part of Canada, told me that corned beef is very popular there, something they attribute to early Irish immigration. The wiki entry for corned beef mentions that Ireland was indeed a major producer of it through the years, supplying the British military at one stage. And Irish immigration to this area of Canada is legendary. St John the Baptist cathedral in StJohn's city was built using much limestone from Galway and granite from Leinster and boasts statues made by two Waterford born artists, John Carew and John Hogan ( whose work is seen in Dublin) Something that I read last week highlighted some of the more eccentric food shops in California. One was Magee's, famous for three generations now for it's corned beef sandwiches. It didn't mention their direct ancestry, but the name is unmistakeable. Magees still own the place today. Perhaps salting meat heavily was originally a necessity, seeing that frugality in many parts of Ireland was even greater than in recent times. Or not? I saw a review last week marking Foxtel's international Food station airing Donal Skehan's cooking show. " He is young, thin and handsome with a delightful Irish brogue...(episode one featured) Veal saltimbocca,a Thai veggie stew,a five minute steak supper... I'm not sure where in Ireland he's from, but I spent months living in a remote village in West Cork with my in-laws. We didn't get any food like that. There wasn't even a restaurant in the village. We only had a chip van. And even that wasn't always open." * this post is not spam*
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 16, 2018 12:16:31 GMT
An Anglo-Indian gentleman who has worked as a chef for many years in the Newfoundland part of Canada, told me that corned beef is very popular there, something they attribute to early Irish immigration. The wiki entry for corned beef mentions that Ireland was indeed a major producer of it through the years, supplying the British military at one stage. And Irish immigration to this area of Canada is legendary. St John the Baptist cathedral in StJohn's city was built using much limestone from Galway and granite from Leinster and boasts statues made by two Waterford born artists, John Carew and John Hogan ( whose work is seen in Dublin) Something that I read last week highlighted some of the more eccentric food shops in California. One was Magee's, famous for three generations now for it's corned beef sandwiches. It didn't mention their direct ancestry, but the name is unmistakeable. Magees still own the place today. Perhaps salting meat heavily was originally a necessity, seeing that frugality in many parts of Ireland was even greater than in recent times. Or not? I saw a review last week marking Foxtel's international Food station airing Donal Skehan's cooking show. " He is young, thin and handsome with a delightful Irish brogue...(episode one featured) Veal saltimbocca,a Thai veggie stew,a five minute steak supper... I'm not sure where in Ireland he's from, but I spent months living in a remote village in West Cork with my in-laws. We didn't get any food like that. There wasn't even a restaurant in the village. We only had a chip van. And even that wasn't always open." * this post is not spam* This post is not spam...is that a pun? I like corned beef well enough as a lunch meat, but I can't stand it as a dinner meat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 14:00:37 GMT
Here's my speculative explanation for "Irish" corned beef.
Corned beef was long a stable food for seafarers and is connected to all maritime cultures of Northern Europe who all have various recipes that combine ship's biscuits with it. Of course, Ireland was a major victualing point for ships connected with British trade and would naturally share in this association. Immigrants, especially those that crossed back and forth across the pond, would readily gain an association with it. That it got connected with the Irish in America in particular is perhaps due to their prevalence as dockworkers in Eastern U.S. seaports. A hogshead's worth liberated from ship's stores or condemned as unfit, could readily feed an entire tenement and would quickly become associated with an ethnic enclave that had it often enough.
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Post by Séamus on Jul 17, 2018 5:22:14 GMT
An Anglo-Indian gentleman who has worked as a chef for many years in the Newfoundland part of Canada, told me that corned beef is very popular there, something they attribute to early Irish immigration. The wiki entry for corned beef mentions that Ireland was indeed a major producer of it through the years, supplying the British military at one stage. And Irish immigration to this area of Canada is legendary. St John the Baptist cathedral in StJohn's city was built using much limestone from Galway and granite from Leinster and boasts statues made by two Waterford born artists, John Carew and John Hogan ( whose work is seen in Dublin) Something that I read last week highlighted some of the more eccentric food shops in California. One was Magee's, famous for three generations now for it's corned beef sandwiches. It didn't mention their direct ancestry, but the name is unmistakeable. Magees still own the place today. Perhaps salting meat heavily was originally a necessity, seeing that frugality in many parts of Ireland was even greater than in recent times. Or not? I saw a review last week marking Foxtel's international Food station airing Donal Skehan's cooking show. " He is young, thin and handsome with a delightful Irish brogue...(episode one featured) Veal saltimbocca,a Thai veggie stew,a five minute steak supper... I'm not sure where in Ireland he's from, but I spent months living in a remote village in West Cork with my in-laws. We didn't get any food like that. There wasn't even a restaurant in the village. We only had a chip van. And even that wasn't always open." * this post is not spam* This post is not spam...is that a pun? etc. I suppose it was a corny joke
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 17, 2018 8:36:21 GMT
This post is not spam...is that a pun? etc. I suppose it was a corny joke I have no beef with that.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 29, 2018 11:37:47 GMT
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Post by tomás laserian on Jul 30, 2018 8:38:00 GMT
hope the crowd increases this year as the need increases
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Post by Séamus on Aug 6, 2018 2:33:02 GMT
I can remember a folktale about walking around 'the black church' three times at midnight if you wanted the devil to appear. Apparently this(Church of Ireland) chapel is properly titled St Mary's,I think I vaguely remember walking past it. Several boys in school claimed, at the time, that they'd tried out, but it didn't work. It took me a few years for doubt to sink in as to whether they'd been allowed to try it (at midnight) at all.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Aug 6, 2018 8:06:32 GMT
I can remember a folktale about walking around 'the black church' three times at midnight if you wanted the devil to appear. Apparently this(Church of Ireland) chapel is properly titled St Mary's,I think I vaguely remember walking past it. Several boys in school claimed, at the time, that they'd tried out, but it didn't work. It took me a few years for doubt to sink in as to whether they'd been allowed to try it (at midnight) at all. They could have sneaked out. There's a similar legend about St. Pappin's in Ballymun (which is now an old folk's home).
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