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Post by Séamus on Jun 10, 2018 4:27:32 GMT
Has anyone here ever had "goody"? This is what Wikipedia says of it: "Goody or goodie is an Irish dessert-like dish made by boiling bread in milk with sugar and spices. It is often given to children or older adults.[1][2] This dish is eaten on St. John's Eve. This dish is also prepared by parents to give to children when they have an upset stomach." I noticed yesterday that Davis Jones department store has a whole display cabinet of BUTLERS chocolates. Are they old enough to be a tradition? The marked price is slightly cheaper than Waterford crystal. ps, are they Fairtrade? Chimpanzee friendly? Elephant friendly?
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 10, 2018 11:01:07 GMT
Founded 1932 according to Wikipedia, so, yes, that's traditional!
Still a long way from Rathbornes candles (1488)!
I've never had Butler's chocolates. I've never really liked fancy chocolates. Cheap chocolates are my thing!
I'm glad this thread remains active.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 16, 2018 11:51:43 GMT
Happy Bloomsday!
I've never read Ulysses (I started but lost interest). Still, I like the fact that the tradition exists.
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Post by cato on Jun 16, 2018 13:15:48 GMT
Happy Bloomsday! I've never read Ulysses (I started but lost interest). Still, I like the fact that the tradition exists. I quite like the idea of Bloomsday but not most Joycean enthusiasts or at least the ones I have come across. Ulysses is worth reading but there are other classical works much more rewarding like Dante's Divine Comedy or Homer's Works if you want to devote a few months or so to a great work. I have tried to read Marcel Proust's Rememberence of Times Past 4 or 5 times but have never got beyond Volume one. I think I managed 10 pages of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings to my great shame.
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Post by cato on Jun 16, 2018 14:53:14 GMT
There is a short video on you tube of the first Bloomsday in 1954 showing Patrick Kavanagh , Anthony Cronin and Flann O Brien in black coaches getting more and more drunk as the journey goes on . There is a scene where they are filmed urinating against a wall which goes to show loutish anti social behaviour isn't confined to modern working class youth.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 17, 2018 17:05:44 GMT
I wonder if cheering AGAINST England, in international sports tournaments, might be considered an Irish tradition? (Obviously, I'm writing this during the World Cup Finals.)
I used to do this when I was in my teens, but more recently I've come to cheer FOR England rather than against them. Nonetheless, I'm not po-faced about it, and I'm amused by Irish people having an Anyone But England attitude.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 20, 2018 9:54:25 GMT
This website suggests that "Soul of my Saviour", the hymn, is particularly popular in Ireland: Some artists regard it as an Irish folk-hymn - the reasons for this are unknown, although it is popular in 20th / 21st century Ireland.
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Post by Séamus on Jun 20, 2018 11:46:08 GMT
This website suggests that "Soul of my Saviour", the hymn, is particularly popular in Ireland: Some artists regard it as an Irish folk-hymn - the reasons for this are unknown, although it is popular in 20th / 21st century Ireland. Something interesting - (maybe) One of the most famous of all Irish-written hymns would have to be HAIL REDEEMER KING DIVINE by Patrick Brennan C.SS.R, in some hymnals named Frank Brennan,1877-1951. He may have ended up in the Redemptorist community of North Perth, colloquially known as 'the monastery'. An Irish-born priest of that name and birth/date worked there and is buried in Perth. I'm sure there were plenty of Patrick Brennans in the history of the congregation in Ireland and the Anglosphere, the same dates would be a striking coincidence though;I know that the last archbishop of Perth, currently emeritus,was absolutely certain that he was indeed the same man.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 20, 2018 12:36:45 GMT
This website suggests that "Soul of my Saviour", the hymn, is particularly popular in Ireland: Some artists regard it as an Irish folk-hymn - the reasons for this are unknown, although it is popular in 20th / 21st century Ireland. Something interesting - (maybe) One of the most famous of all Irish-written hymns would have to be HAIL REDEEMER KING DIVINE by Patrick Brennan C.SS.R, in some hymnals named Frank Brennan,1877-1951. He may have ended up in the Redemptorist community of North Perth, colloquially known as 'the monastery'. An Irish-born priest of that name and birth/date worked there and is buried in Perth. I'm sure there were plenty of Patrick Brennans in the history of the congregation in Ireland and the Anglosphere, the same dates would be a striking coincidence though;I know that the last archbishop of Perth, currently emeritus,was absolutely certain that he was indeed the same man. Thanks Séamus. A new hymn for me.
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Post by Séamus on Jun 21, 2018 1:54:33 GMT
Something interesting - (maybe) One of the most famous of all Irish-written hymns would have to be HAIL REDEEMER KING DIVINE by Patrick Brennan C.SS.R, in some hymnals named Frank Brennan,1877-1951. He may have ended up in the Redemptorist community of North Perth, colloquially known as 'the monastery'. An Irish-born priest of that name and birth/date worked there and is buried in Perth. I'm sure there were plenty of Patrick Brennans in the history of the congregation in Ireland and the Anglosphere, the same dates would be a striking coincidence though;I know that the last archbishop of Perth, currently emeritus,was absolutely certain that he was indeed the same man. Thanks Séamus. A new hymn for me. It spread far and wide in the English-speaking world. It's included in the ICEL(American) translation breviary for the Christ the King Feast. Frank Patterson recorded it in the 90s as part of the FAITH OF OUR FATHERS series.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 22, 2018 13:17:27 GMT
I've been reading about St. John's Eve, the day before the feast of St. John the Baptist, which is Sunday. This was a big celebration in Europe in centuries past. The Wikipedia page is very interesting.A few mentions of Ireland: In some rural parts of Ireland, particularly in the north-west, Bonfire Night is held on St. John's Eve, when bonfires are lit on hilltops. Many towns and cities have "Midsummer Carnivals", with fairs, concerts and fireworks, around the same time. In County Cork in southwest Ireland the night is commonly referred to as bonfire night and is among the busiest nights of the year for the fire services.And: Customarily, in Connaught, Ireland, a special dish called "Goody" was made. This was white 'shop-bread' which had been soaked in hot milk and flavored with sugar and spices. It was usually made in a large pot that was either placed on the communal bonfire or heated on a smaller fire close by. Revelers brought their own spoons and bowls if they wanted to share in the "Goody"I'm going to try making "goody" on Saturday!
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Post by Séamus on Jul 8, 2018 10:59:19 GMT
Happy Bloomsday! I've never read Ulysses (I started but lost interest). Still, I like the fact that the tradition exists. "...She would portion out the decades to the company at large But when she reached the trimmins she would put herself in charge And it oft was cause for wonder how she never once forgot But would keep them in their order till she went right through the lot For that little Irish mother's prayers embraced the country wide If a neighbour met with trouble or was taken ill or died We could count upon a trimmin-till in fact it got that way That the rosary was a trimmins to the trimmins we would say Then 'himself' would start keownrawning, for the pubic good we thought 'Sure you'll have us here till mornin. Yerra, cut them trimminss short' " He was technically an Australian, but I thought it was pertinent to ask here whether anyone reads priest-poet John O'Brien?
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 8, 2018 11:39:26 GMT
Happy Bloomsday! I've never read Ulysses (I started but lost interest). Still, I like the fact that the tradition exists. "...She would portion out the decades to the company at large But when she reached the trimmins she would put herself in charge And it oft was cause for wonder how she never once forgot But would keep them in their order till she went right through the lot For that little Irish mother's prayers embraced the country wide If a neighbour met with trouble or was taken ill or died We could count upon a trimmin-till in fact it got that way That the rosary was a trimmins to the trimmins we would say Then 'himself' would start keownrawning, for the pubic good we thought 'Sure you'll have us here till mornin. Yerra, cut them trimminss short' " He was technically an Australian, but I thought it was pertinent to ask here whether anyone reads priest-poet John O'Brien? I've long been aware of that poem. I encountered it in an anthology of Irish ballads, verse and other short pieces called Rich and Rare, edited by Sean McMahon. But I don't know any more about him.
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Post by Séamus on Jul 9, 2018 2:43:24 GMT
"...She would portion out the decades to the company at large But when she reached the trimmins she would put herself in charge And it oft was cause for wonder how she never once forgot But would keep them in their order till she went right through the lot For that little Irish mother's prayers embraced the country wide If a neighbour met with trouble or was taken ill or died We could count upon a trimmin-till in fact it got that way That the rosary was a trimmins to the trimmins we would say Then 'himself' would start keownrawning, for the pubic good we thought 'Sure you'll have us here till mornin. Yerra, cut them trimminss short' " He was technically an Australian, but I thought it was pertinent to ask here whether anyone reads priest-poet John O'Brien? I've long been aware of that poem. I encountered it in an anthology of Irish ballads, verse and other short pieces called Rich and Rare, edited by Sean McMahon. But I don't know any more about him. I'd never come across 'keownrawning', apparently a type of complaint, before. Would assume it originates with somebody by the rather Irish name of (mc)Keown, but was the expression Irish or pioneer Australian? There were plenty of Irish mothers featuring throughout his verse.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 10, 2018 20:31:57 GMT
Happy Bloomsday! I've never read Ulysses (I started but lost interest). Still, I like the fact that the tradition exists. "...She would portion out the decades to the company at large But when she reached the trimmins she would put herself in charge And it oft was cause for wonder how she never once forgot But would keep them in their order till she went right through the lot For that little Irish mother's prayers embraced the country wide If a neighbour met with trouble or was taken ill or died We could count upon a trimmin-till in fact it got that way That the rosary was a trimmins to the trimmins we would say Then 'himself' would start keownrawning, for the pubic good we thought 'Sure you'll have us here till mornin. Yerra, cut them trimminss short' " He was technically an Australian, but I thought it was pertinent to ask here whether anyone reads priest-poet John O'Brien? He is actually quoted on the inside front cover of the latest issue of Annals Australasia. I didn't know he wrote the collection Around the Boree Log. I've sometimes flicked through in the library (not actually taking it from the shelf, just flicking through it).
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