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Post by kj on Jul 27, 2017 13:18:22 GMT
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 27, 2017 13:38:00 GMT
I sometimes wonder if these IT articles are just comment bait. This seems like an exception, but usually the comments to Church-bashing and conservative-bashing articles in the IT (or rather, those which are egregiously so) are more hostile than otherwise.
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Post by servantofthechief on Jul 27, 2017 14:26:22 GMT
A quick look along the related stories line to the right shows you just how quickly the IT is descending the totem pole to fishwrap status:
-‘How lucky that I had my kids in forward-thinking Denmark’ (Ironically its a story about how the Danish state gives support to 'allow' one parent to stay at home with the kids. This is considered 'lucky' rather than 'how it should be')
-Brexit: ‘Ideological crap about sovereignty and taking back control’
-It’s summer time, so why is it so cold on airplanes?
- Wolf Blass packaging manager Michael Byron in Adelaide: ‘Our wines can take three months to get from our warehouses to stores in Ireland’. ‘I see myself as an ambassador for Ireland in everything I do’
- My husband is struggling with my career success
- ‘Hipstery’ home in Pimlico, Dublin 8, for €295,000
We're not nearly as bad as other places, not yet, but if you recall the hit pieces decrying the celebrations of Ireland's independence during Eastertime you can see where this leads. These people need to be stopped.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 27, 2017 14:34:36 GMT
I don't think we can stop them. We can only be vocal in our opposition and in our own opinions. There is a constant effort to normalize and naturalize the globalist-liberal-secularist outlook, and to marginalize the opposite viewpoints. That was my idea in starting this forum.
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Post by cato on Jul 27, 2017 18:42:54 GMT
Another trashy propaganda piece from the Irish Slimes. One good thing about the brave new world she so eagerly desires is that the Times will probably go bust by then.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 27, 2017 19:40:04 GMT
Speaking for myself, I can't wish that. I mean, I would love to see Una Mullally give up journalism and Fintan O'Toole become a contemplative monk, but the Irish Times is a venerable Irish institution and as a conservative I don't wish such venerable Irish institutions to die!
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Post by cato on Jul 27, 2017 19:57:40 GMT
I thought of the whole tradition thing too but the grand old lady is busy cheering on and promoting the destruction of old Ireland . As St Thomas would put it - it is apt that she should perish in like manner. She seems oblivious that her cards are marked too.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 27, 2017 20:18:32 GMT
Well, hopefully the Irish Times won't be stuck in its current rut forever. Its editorial line has changed in the past. I'm sad when anything historic passes away.
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Post by ZenoOfCitium on Jul 28, 2017 13:15:00 GMT
What a truly disgraceful article. Of course, the real parallel with the Handmaid's Tale is the ever so contemporary practice of surrogate mothers.
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Post by ZenoOfCitium on Jul 28, 2017 13:17:41 GMT
Well, hopefully the Irish Times won't be stuck in its current rut forever. Its editorial line has changed in the past. I'm sad when anything historic passes away. I, too, hope that is changes its editorial line and survives, but I have little hope that it will. It is very much heading towards oblivion and, aside from the editorial line, there has been significant deterioration in the quality of both its news coverage and analysis.
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Post by ZenoOfCitium on Jul 29, 2017 11:03:47 GMT
I just went back to have a look at the comments under that piece - the vehement hatred for Catholicism is striking.
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Post by MourningIreland on Aug 18, 2017 16:52:22 GMT
I just went back to have a look at the comments under that piece - the vehement hatred for Catholicism is striking. I've witnessed first-hand that some (many?) heavy promoters of the Irish language espouse vicious hatred for the Catholic Church. This trend disturbs and alarms me more than I can say. Can these bones live?
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Aug 18, 2017 17:14:45 GMT
I think there are a disproportionate amount of Church bashers and also of faithful Catholics in Irish language circles. Irish speakers tend to have strong opinions.
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Post by kj on Aug 19, 2017 9:21:10 GMT
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Aug 19, 2017 10:33:39 GMT
To be fair, he does acknowledge a liberal myth too:
Then there was the tale of tradition and modernity: the transformation of a rural, underdeveloped, highly religious, educationally backward, culturally monolithic little state into an urban, industrial (indeed often post-industrial), cosmopolitan and extremely globalised economy.
I think this article shows how Fintan O'Toole is one of the more thoughtful liberals; he does, at least, see a nation as having a need for an identity and a narrative. I am thinking of writing a letter in response to this one.
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