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Post by Maolsheachlann on Aug 9, 2017 8:19:48 GMT
What do people think of the much-lamented history of censorship in the Irish state: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_censorship_in_the_Republic_of_IrelandI've always felt rather inclined to admire Ireland's history in this regard. It's true that some of the censorship was silly, but I'm not much exercized about that. I approve of the historical censorship as an assertion of Ireland's desire to have a distinctive culture of its own, most especially a Catholic culture. Literature is important, but the moral tone of society is much more important. There are enough books in the world to keep anyone going and nobody is going to suffer any real privation through not reading some book or other. Besides, I understand it was very easy to get the books if you REALLY wanted to read them. I realize that this is in possible tension with my hatred of political correctness. I suppose all I can say is that it seems right to me that there should be SOME censorship of artistic works and it should err on the side of occasionally coming down hard-- keep the artists on their toes, and assert the spirit of the nation (to take a phrase from Charlie Haughey).
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Aug 9, 2017 8:25:35 GMT
Anti-censorship as a principle really annoys me. I stopped watching Field of Dreams because it had an anti-censorship sub-plot. It just seems so crude and cheap.
Writers and artists are known for pushing the boundaries and I feel there should be someone to push back.
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Post by Séamus on Aug 9, 2017 11:34:44 GMT
It's quite an irony that there's so much fury in today's world against the abuse of minors, (I'm not saying there shouldn't be) while the same minors are increasingly exposed to everything... ABSOLUTELY E V E R Y T H I N G, often by the very parties who spearhead bringing the former perpetrators to justice. Of course what children should be protected from is only part of the picture. A lot of what we see is probably not good for any of us.
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Post by cato on Aug 9, 2017 11:36:27 GMT
The vast bulk of the books censored in Ireland were explicitly pornographic which is usually not mentioned in discussions on this subject.
I think literary censorship was unwise and became absurd. Kate O Brien's fine and very catholic novel, Land of Spices , was banned on the basis of a sentence implying a homosexual embrace and a classical Roman novel by Apulius, The Golden Ass , published by penguin in paperback in the 1960s was also banned. The professor of English in Maynooth in the 1960s Fr Peter Connolly was one of the prominent catholic critics of the censorship board. Mind you in context there was literary censorship in most of the world up to the 1960s and political/security censorship in the Uk in the 1980s (The Spycatcher affair).
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Post by cato on Aug 23, 2018 22:15:08 GMT
I met a man today who painted an iconic Irish Painting of the Flight of the Earls. Thomas Ryan , the artist has a wonderful show of his religious paintings in the parish hall of St Kevin's church Harrington Rd. It's only on to Saturday but it's a great occasion to meet an artist who paints faith based themes with love and reverence.He seemed serene and very down to earth.
His famous Flight of the Earl's picture is now in his home on the wall as Dublin castle , where it hung for almost 20 years no longer wanted it. He said his whole realist style and religious subject matter is not wanted by the Irish state. I was struck by a portrait of the lying in state of Sir Rodger Casement but it too is normally hanging on his wall at home.
The modern art establishment seem to be exercising a new puritanical censorship although it would go into self righteous fits of indignation if this was ever pointed out. If you can go and see his paintings this weekend.
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