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Jun 11, 2018 12:42:47 GMT
Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 11, 2018 12:42:47 GMT
Yes her article DOES mention that it's a GERMAN family,I hadn't reread the piece before writing Norway,which for some reason I thought it was. A bit sensitive it that matter. No more comments about their nationality relations here. Sensitivity is forbidden on this forum.
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Post by Tomas on Jun 11, 2018 14:01:32 GMT
A bit sensitive it that matter. No more comments about their nationality relations here. Sensitivity is forbidden on this forum. Jawohl
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Post by Tomas on Jun 11, 2018 14:23:08 GMT
The Swedish version did not say a single thing on the war Spanish or Mexican and had ONLY a text about love. It was a fine text in every way. Happily, and predictably, not the least hint of anything gay either. In the beginning Annifrid even sings explicit "has SHE left you?" etc (in the translation otherwise ok it said only "your great love" and not "her" in that specific line)! So in the end of the day they proved there to be just the common Swedish pop trifles they appeared to be. Supertalented, and also admittedly (especially seeing lead voice Annifrid again in this music video) some of the really hot stars once upon a time.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys4lyJiqG8E
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Jun 12, 2018 2:36:56 GMT
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Post by Séamus on Jun 12, 2018 2:36:56 GMT
The Swedish version did not say a single thing on the war Spanish or Mexican and had ONLY a text about love. It was a fine text in every way. Happily, and predictably, not the least hint of anything gay either. In the beginning Annifrid even sings explicit "has SHE left you?" etc (in the translation otherwise ok it said only "your great love" and not "her" in that specific line)! So in the end of the day they proved there to be just the common Swedish pop trifles they appeared to be. Supertalented, and also admittedly (especially seeing lead voice Annifrid again in this music video) some of the really hot stars once upon a time.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys4lyJiqG8E Must have been more pacifist there. What lyrics would be written now as some Swedes fear an invasion by Russia? I noticed the Swedish royal family's latest baptism photos. They now have an O'Neil among the in-laws? That was my point about Annifrid of course, not so much whether it was Norway or Germany, but being a royal in Europe does still bring people into contact with Christianity.
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Post by Tomas on Jun 12, 2018 8:07:05 GMT
The Swedish version did not say a single thing on the war Spanish or Mexican and had ONLY a text about love. It was a fine text in every way. Happily, and predictably, not the least hint of anything gay either. In the beginning Annifrid even sings explicit "has SHE left you?" etc (in the translation otherwise ok it said only "your great love" and not "her" in that specific line)! So in the end of the day they proved there to be just the common Swedish pop trifles they appeared to be. Supertalented, and also admittedly (especially seeing lead voice Annifrid again in this music video) some of the really hot stars once upon a time.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys4lyJiqG8E Must have been more pacifist there. What lyrics would be written now as some Swedes fear an invasion by Russia? I noticed the Swedish royal family's latest baptism photos. They now have an O'Neil among the in-laws? That was my point about Annifrid of course, not so much whether it was Norway or Germany, but being a royal in Europe does still bring people into contact with Christianity. Intriguing topic but perhaps not so inspirational as one would wish for. Affilination to Christianity via the Royal houses today? Doubts invade, unvoluntarily. Yes in Sweden the Royal house is strongly connected to Lutheranism/Protestantism in its present form. But what does that mean then. I´m afraid it does not give so much sense of "glad tidings for Christianity". This man O´Neill is an American businessman, married to the youngest of the three heirs to the throne, and presumably not the loved beacon of holiness associated with some Royal saints in earlier times. They may be believers personally (I have no idea) but never a word on Christianity is spoken by them in public society.
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Post by assisi on Jun 15, 2018 21:14:14 GMT
Talk of Fernando reminded me of another 'war' song that I have always liked and found quite heroic 'The Partisan'. It's a song about the French Resistance during the second world war. The most famous cover version is by Leonard Cohen and it is his version I first heard. But I came across another version by an Israeli singer Esther Ofarim that I think is better than the likeable, but lugubrious Leonard Cohen. See what you think: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNMpuslHDy4
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Post by Séamus on Jul 7, 2018 10:03:55 GMT
Since I always hear the English version this was making me curious to hear it in Swedish to see what differs. Séamus, sorry for being too much into details but "Anna" is never ever called Anna, only either Frida or her full name Annifrid... mundanely she actually lived in my hometown and began her career here, and was honoured very belatedly by an official music prize/diploma a couple of years back (rather poor commune standards!) and I have never heard of any family heritage in connections to the Royal house in Norway?? The man she married was a prince or so but not herself before marriage. I had been curious about another 70s song that I often heard on the radio etc through the years and I looked it up just yesterday-'Movie Star'...I was surprised to learn that the singer was another Swedish fellow! At first the lyrics seem very Anglo-American with mention of James Dean,007 and Steve McQueen, but (refeshingly, for English speakers) the next verse mentions going to Sweden to become an actor and meeting Ingmar Bergman, but 'he wasn't there or didn't care'. Not sure how many people in the Anglosphere think of going to Sweden for acting fame these days. It's another one of those unusual songs where a man is singing to a male friend rather than to a love interest. I thought Harpo himself looked like a bit of an odd character in the video... But it was the Seventies after all.
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Jul 7, 2018 20:23:43 GMT
Post by Tomas on Jul 7, 2018 20:23:43 GMT
Since I always hear the English version this was making me curious to hear it in Swedish to see what differs. Séamus, sorry for being too much into details but "Anna" is never ever called Anna, only either Frida or her full name Annifrid... mundanely she actually lived in my hometown and began her career here, and was honoured very belatedly by an official music prize/diploma a couple of years back (rather poor commune standards!) and I have never heard of any family heritage in connections to the Royal house in Norway?? The man she married was a prince or so but not herself before marriage. I had been curious about another 70s song that I often heard on the radio etc through the years and I looked it up just yesterday-'Movie Star'...I was surprised to learn that the singer was another Swedish fellow! At first the lyrics seem very Anglo-American with mention of James Dean,007 and Steve McQueen, but (refeshingly, for English speakers) the next verse mentions going to Sweden to become an actor and meeting Ingmar Bergman, but 'he wasn't there or didn't care'. Not sure how many people in the Anglosphere think of going to Sweden for acting fame these days. It's another one of those unusual songs where a man is singing to a male friend rather than to a love interest. I thought Harpo himself looked like a bit of an odd character in the video... But it was the Seventies after all. haha that song was like a chewing gum played A LOT on the radio when I grew up. He´s a kind of Swedish equivalent to Mungo Jerry perhaps. One hit wonder… (I don´t think I´ve ever heard any other song!) musically it sounds like a typical 70s ditty piece liked by the man who were behind ABBA from the start, Stikkan Anderson.
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Sept 22, 2018 8:12:06 GMT
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Post by Séamus on Sept 22, 2018 8:12:06 GMT
I got ALTAN's THE GAP OF DREAMS (worldwide release 2018) cd this week. Of course, being those sort of musicians, their music is always traditional, but the cover notes seen even more personal this time in some ways, "Mairéad heard this song of unrequited love from a young Inishowen girl..." "'The Piper in the Cave' is associated with the fiddling family of Frankie and Mickie Byrne of Kilcar..." "...Fr Eoghan O'Colim,a cousin of Mairéad's mother and author of TORAIGH na dTonn made important field recordings...." "our great friend of Clannad fame, Moya Brennan, composed this song with her grandfather Aodh O'Dúgáin..." No Yeats poems sung this time. THE WHITE BIRDS was probably the highlight of their last album. Not sure if Mr. Maolsheachlann, or anyone else has ever given an opinion of poems or literature to music? I remember reading some years ago that Joyce's copyright holder was notoriously against this. I've never followed THE WATERBOYS music much-they seem to have been the main ones for singing Irish or Scottish poets in recent years.
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Sept 22, 2018 10:40:23 GMT
Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 22, 2018 10:40:23 GMT
I got ALTAN's THE GAP OF DREAMS (worldwide release 2018) cd this week. Of course, being those sort of musicians, their music is always traditional, but the cover notes seen even more personal this time in some ways, "Mairéad heard this song of unrequited love from a young Inishowen girl..." "'The Piper in the Cave' is associated with the fiddling family of Frankie and Mickie Byrne of Kilcar..." "...Fr Eoghan O'Colim,a cousin of Mairéad's mother and author of TORAIGH na dTonn made important field recordings...." "our great friend of Clannad fame, Moya Brennan, composed this song with her grandfather Aodh O'Dúgáin..." No Yeats poems sung this time. THE WHITE BIRDS was probably the highlight of their last album. Not sure if Mr. Maolsheachlann, or anyone else has ever given an opinion of poems or literature to music? I remember reading some years ago that Joyce's copyright holder was notoriously against this. I've never followed THE WATERBOYS music much-they seem to have been the main ones for singing Irish or Scottish poets in recent years. I hate poetry put to music, but I accept this is a prejudice of mine. Again, sorry to link to my blog, but I happened to very recently write a blog post about how I imagine poetry when I hear it, and it's very much not compatible with musical settings. However, if lyrics have been written to music in the first place, that's different. For instance, I think the lyrics to "New York, New York" are brilliant because they fit the music so well. Doubtless I am completely wrong and will be reminded that Homer chanted to a lyre, etc. Well, this is just my personal feelings, not necessarily well-founded. irishpapist.blogspot.com/2018/09/the-spoken-word.html
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Post by Séamus on Sept 23, 2018 7:00:51 GMT
I...etc... THE WHITE BIRDS was probably the highlight of their last album....etc.... I....etc.....br] Doubtless I am completely wrong and will be reminded that Homer chanted to a lyre,...etc....html [/a][/quote] You won't be reminded, because music and poetry can be expected to have had different boundaries in Homer's time, besides which- you're probably generally right, but occasionally there would have to be exceptions. I did think, though, without claiming to be very knowledgeable of Yeats, that WHITE BIRDS was nicely done, the music actually wasn't written by one of the group but by guest Fiona Black, Mary Chapin Carpenter joining the vocals too; the title of that album THE WIDENING GYRE, was borrowed from Yeats also. I'm sure also that the most poetic of popular songs, if we divorced them from the music, would suddenly seem less poetic.
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Post by assisi on Sept 24, 2018 16:57:16 GMT
The Byrds, a famous 1960s band, put some of Ecclesiastes to music in one of their more popular songs 'Turn, Turn, Turn'. I think they did it well and pretty seamlessly. See what you think: www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ga_M5Zdn4Lyrics: "Turn! Turn! Turn!" To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under heaven A time to be born, a time to die A time to plant, a time to reap A time to kill, a time to heal A time to laugh, a time to weep To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under heaven A time to build up, a time to break down A time to dance, a time to mourn A time to cast away stones A time to gather stones together To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under heaven A time of love, a time of hate A time of war, a time of peace A time you may embrace A time to refrain from embracing To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under heaven A time to gain, a time to lose A time to rend, a time to sew A time for love, a time for hate A time for peace, I swear it's not too late!
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 24, 2018 18:43:54 GMT
The Byrds, a famous 1960s band, put some of Ecclesiastes to music in one of their more popular songs 'Turn, Turn, Turn'. I think they did it well and pretty seamlessly. See what you think: www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ga_M5Zdn4Lyrics: "Turn! Turn! Turn!" To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under heaven A time to be born, a time to die A time to plant, a time to reap A time to kill, a time to heal A time to laugh, a time to weep To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under heaven A time to build up, a time to break down A time to dance, a time to mourn A time to cast away stones A time to gather stones together To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under heaven A time of love, a time of hate A time of war, a time of peace A time you may embrace A time to refrain from embracing To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under heaven A time to gain, a time to lose A time to rend, a time to sew A time for love, a time for hate A time for peace, I swear it's not too late! I knew about this song long, long before I ever heard about Ecclesiastes! I remember it was used on an extended ad for some TV channel when I was a kid. The power of the words really struck me even back then. I had no idea it was from the Bible.
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Post by cato on Sept 24, 2018 18:55:39 GMT
The Byrds, a famous 1960s band, put some of Ecclesiastes to music in one of their more popular songs 'Turn, Turn, Turn'. I think they did it well and pretty seamlessly. See what you think: www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ga_M5Zdn4Lyrics: "Turn! Turn! Turn!" To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under heaven A time to be born, a time to die A time to plant, a time to reap A time to kill, a time to heal A time to laugh, a time to weep To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under heaven A time to build up, a time to break down A time to dance, a time to mourn A time to cast away stones A time to gather stones together To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under heaven A time of love, a time of hate A time of war, a time of peace A time you may embrace A time to refrain from embracing To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under heaven A time to gain, a time to lose A time to rend, a time to sew A time for love, a time for hate A time for peace, I swear it's not too late! I remember it from various folk masses in the hideous 1970s ! Shudder. It was also on the soundtrack of Forrest Gump- One of my favourite films .I always asociate this song with hippies and the counterculture.
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Sept 25, 2018 2:38:24 GMT
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Post by Séamus on Sept 25, 2018 2:38:24 GMT
K The Byrds, a famous 1960s band, put some of Ecclesiastes to music in one of their more popular songs 'Turn, Turn, Turn'. I think they did it well and pretty seamlessly. See what you think: www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ga_M5Zdn4Lyrics: "Turn! Turn! Turn!" To everything - turn, turn, turn There is a season - turn, turn, turn...etc...late! A Christian group called Eden's Bridge, the nucleus of which is a married couple named Lacey, did a great recording of this in the 90s with uilleann pipes as part of their Celtic Worship series, which is their usual style, even though they're actually English.
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