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Post by cato on Jan 18, 2019 21:27:22 GMT
I don't think the pressing issue so far of the 21st century hasn't been formally covered here. I refer to the massive increase in children/adolescents wanting to switch genders.
The new law in Ireland does not require any medical or pychological evidence. It asks for a written declaration.
RTE's Prime Time are hosting a discussion on this next week which looks interesting as they are allowing critics of the movement to speak . I laughed out loud when the host Miriam O Callaghan expressed surprise at the lack of debate on the subject in Ireland to date. Now fancy that! I wonder why people feel reluctant to express a view on this or any other non PC issue in Irish life at present.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jan 18, 2019 22:21:35 GMT
In a way, it is hard to argue against because it is so insane. It's as though someone were to argue that that the world had come into existence five minutes ago and all the records of the supposed past were fabrications. There is no way to contradict it.
I suppose it makes sense if you understand gender as a sociological construct. Insofar as that it is accepted, I suppose it is true that anyone can declare themselves male or female (and why stop there?). But transgender people usually want to argue that there is some kind of mind-independent reality of gender, that there is a "real" gender which they can't help. How on earth is this defined?
There is also an element of chivalry involved, because a person who claims to be transgendered is almost certainly disturbed and who wants to disturb them further?
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Post by assisi on Jan 19, 2019 20:00:56 GMT
The whole area of transgenderism is very important. Government policy and law are basically legalising and validating fantasy. Now, how long can any culture retain its credibility when this happens?
The application of a vague label to this, 'dysphoria', is obviously meant to establish it in the public's mind as a medical disorder, which I don't believe it is. Indeed dysphoria is defined as 'a profound state of unease or dissatisfaction' (the opposite of 'euphoria'), something quite general which can be assigned to a number of conditions.
I have no doubt that people who identify as transgender are unhappy and ill at ease. I believe they are troubled souls, but I believe that it would be better to try and get to the root cause of their unhappiness rather than to physically attempt to transform their sex (which is ultimately a physical impossibility).
Why not also have 'race dysphoria' where a white woman for example wishes to identify as racially black? Or 'age dysphoria' where a middle aged man wished to identify as a 7 year old and go back to primary school? If they feel emotionally attached to these ideas, the emotion will become an obsession, then they will end up in a profound state of unease, thus dysphoric.
Also what if a person is so unhappy and emotionally unstable that they change their sex identity every couple of weeks or every day? What is to stop them if the law allows them to self identify.
Transgenderism is not a slippy slope to a fantasy world, it is a fully blown step over the precipice.
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Post by cato on Jan 21, 2019 23:03:37 GMT
I see Graham Lenihan of Father Ted fame and a prominent Repeal advocate has been attacked for his non PC views on trans rights. Lenihan is due to speak in tomorrows Prime Time but has been denounced as a hater and a transphobe for expressing public doubts about allowing children to sterilise and mutilate themselves.
One trans group said only medical and trans people should be qualified to speak on this topic unless presumably they agree with the trans agenda. Will be interesting to see if RTE cave in on this issue.
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Post by cato on Jan 22, 2019 15:18:36 GMT
The US Supreme court has just upheld President Trumps ban on transexuals serving in the military. Wait for the outrage ....
As a super power the US needs top class military. Many of those personel may have to go into zones of extreme danger and if necessary die. That is not a place for faffy snowflake ideology and cry baby self centered whinging. A warzone is not a safe space. Jihadi terrorists are not equal opportunity friendly.
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Post by cato on Jan 22, 2019 22:30:46 GMT
The prime Time program was rather tame although Miriam O Callaghan provided a trigger warning at the onset. Those protesting outside RTE seemed to be objecting to the notion of a discussion occuring at all. No mention was made of the protests at all. Had 50 pro lifers protested against a Repeal discussion last year it would have been major news.
Indeed during the program one activist praised the cancellation of a campaign last year to organise a public discussion. It is interesting to see Trans and women's groups at logger heads about what it means to be female.
I never realised that among Irish teenagers many more girls seek to become boys than vice versa. This in an age of hyper feminism and strong women! This issue was not explored in any depth sadly.
The usual liberal self congratulation appeared when it emerged our new laws may become the most liberal anywhere ie 16 year olds may declare themselves of the opposite gender without any medical or psychiatric input whatsover.Also it was stated the non debate here proves our great sophistication unlike those nasty Brits who hate foreigners and now trans people.
Perhaps Irish people don't wish to cause needless offence especially when activists are so intolerant and prickly? Fear isn't a sign of maturity . Most people probably couldn't be bothered either way frankly.
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