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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 25, 2019 14:02:18 GMT
I didn't know whether to put this in the religion folder or in the "Irish customs" thread, but I plumped for this one.
Why do most Irish Catholic churches that offer daily Mass ofer it at ten a.m.? This time is useless to most people of working age, and indeed to most students and schoolchildren. It would only seem to suit retired and unemployed people.
Is it the same in other countries?
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Post by Tomas on Sept 25, 2019 15:30:44 GMT
Don´t think there are any Masses at that hour apart from some parishes on Sundays here in Sweden (for instance at our parish we have regular visits from the so called national missions and their time will be in between the other two Masses thus 10 a.m. on certain Sundays). During week days we have Mass either early in the morning at 7.30 a.m. or at night 7 p.m.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 25, 2019 15:37:41 GMT
Don´t think there are any Masses at that hour apart from some parishes on Sundays here in Sweden (for instance at our parish we have regular visits from the so called national missions and their time will be in between the other two Masses thus 10 a.m. on certain Sundays). During week days we have Mass either early in the morning at 7.30 a.m. or at night 7 p.m. That makes a lot more sense. Swedish people are obviously smarter than Irish people. |
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Post by Tomas on Sept 25, 2019 15:44:18 GMT
Don´t think there are any Masses at that hour apart from some parishes on Sundays here in Sweden (for instance at our parish we have regular visits from the so called national missions and their time will be in between the other two Masses thus 10 a.m. on certain Sundays). During week days we have Mass either early in the morning at 7.30 a.m. or at night 7 p.m. That makes a lot more sense. Swedish people are obviously smarter than Irish people. Rather more yawning than smarter since the morning Masses are often attended by so few parishoners as can be counted on the fingers on one hand. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 25, 2019 17:15:13 GMT
That makes a lot more sense. Swedish people are obviously smarter than Irish people. Rather more yawning than smarter since the morning Masses are often attended by so few parishoners as can be counted on the fingers on one hand. Early morning Mass is my favourite-- the earlier the better! |
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Post by cato on Sept 25, 2019 20:05:35 GMT
Rather more yawning than smarter since the morning Masses are often attended by so few parishoners as can be counted on the fingers on one hand.
[/quote]Early morning Mass is my favourite-- the earlier the better!
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The last Supper and the Eucharist at Emmaus would seem to lend support for our Lords preference for evening masses. He had at least one dawn Eucharistic encounter with the disciples too I recall.
I know a few priests who have tried to change the times of 10am mass and are opposed by laity for no reason other than "we like it the way it is". Some even complain when clergy are away on retreat or are ill. Post Vatican II Catholics can be stubbornly conservative in little things too. I am sympathetic with keeping things the same generally but with numbers of congregants and clergy falling it is unrealistic to maintain service levels at 1950s standards.
It is hard to believe now but Irish bishops in the 1950s were complaining about having too many priests and regularly exported the surplus ordainations to the UK. Mind you a lot of their parishioners had also gone to the UK too. I suspect many of the current strange mass times were started back in a time when clergy were tripping over each other relatively speaking but needed to be assigned public duties .
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Post by cato on Mar 20, 2020 21:06:28 GMT
In an unexpected development ( at least to me) those nice people up in Letterkenny Co. Donegal are broadcasting their 10.30am daily mass to the whole nation and possibly globally thanks to RTEs news channel. Bishop Alan Mc Guckian SJ is celebrating a private mass without congregation with the PP Mgr Kevin Gillespie who was I hear a Papal MC to both Popes Benedict and Francis, each day for all unable to access mass in the normal way. They broadcast from the Cathedral if Sts Eunan and Columba one of the most beautiful churches in Ireland.
The arrival of this modern plague has led to the revival of some rather unmodern church practices like private masses and spiritual communion. As someone who leans somewhat to the medieval I find this a curious comfort. The Lord remains with us in the long lent of 2020 but not in the way we expected.
I don't really subscribe to the smiting God of Exodus but I do wonder if the recent forced shutting of Irish pubs is not a verdict on some of our recent decadent gestures of liberation including the abolition of the Good Friday pub ban? Dublin and most European cities and towns looks like the Taliban has just taken over the brewing industry. Very strange times indeed.
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Post by cato on Apr 6, 2020 22:27:04 GMT
RTE confirmed 65,000 people watched the TV mass broadcast last Tuesday from Letterkenny. Many are also watching mass on local parish web cams. Unfortunately they often don't have the capacity to cope with large numbers of viewers especially at funerals.
RTE is showing the Easter ceremonies as usual this Holy Week. EWTN is providing its usual masses from Alabama, Washington and Rome.
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