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Post by Maolsheachlann on Dec 10, 2019 9:37:59 GMT
I was surprised to see a rather thoughtful and non-combative segment on sacramental confession on the Claire Byrne Live show yesterday. (I'm not sure if this was a repeat.)
It was prompted by the fact that a priest is offering confession in a supermarket. Several guests went to confession and spoke about their experiences. The surprising thing was that most of them were positive and the report lacked the usual RTE antagonistic tone towards religion.
"Poet" Theo Dorgan was present to supply the usual liberal clichés. He complained about going how going to confession was too individualistic since it absolves one of one's personal sins and liberates one from social responsibility after that. Presumably NOT going to confession fills people with a sense of social solidarity. He also complained that having confession in a shopping centre detracted from the sense of the sacred. You can't please some people. But even he was quite respectful and not at all combative.
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Post by assisi on Dec 10, 2019 11:03:16 GMT
I was surprised to see a rather thoughtful and non-combative segment on sacramental confession on the Claire Byrne Live show yesterday. (I'm not sure if this was a repeat.) It was prompted by the fact that a priest is offering confession in a supermarket. Several guests went to confession and spoke about their experiences. The surprising thing was that most of them were positive and the report lacked the usual RTE antagonistic tone towards religion. "Poet" Theo Dorgan was present to supply the usual liberal clichés. He complained about going how going to confession was too individualistic since it absolves one of one's personal sins and liberates one from social responsibility after that. Presumably NOT going to confession fills people with a sense of social solidarity. He also complained that having confession in a shopping centre detracted from the sense of the sacred. You can't please some people. But even he was quite respectful and not at all combative. Liberals will never outright like or approve something Catholic; they need to qualify it so that they save face lest they be seen to see something positive in Christianity, Lord forbid! I've got a sneaking feeling I won't be reading any Theo Dorgan poetry in the near future. Hoever, I've just read a brief article on him. He does speak the arty language of poets but, to his credit, says 'I’m disgusted with the nonentities that have drifted into power in this country'. Interesting that Dorgan tells a story of his great grandmother dying in childbirth at sea. Luckily for Dorgan there was a wet nurse on board that helped the new born infant, his grandfather. Without that wet nurse, his grandfather would probably have died and Dorgan himself would never have been born. I wonder does he think of other beings that never get to be born? I always have a laugh around Christmas at an article in the Guardian/Observer magazine many years ago about 'right on liberal celebs' celebrating Christmas. Can't remember exactly who, but it may have included David Attenborough, Brian Cox, Ricky Gervais and others. They would all start with a solemn sounding intro saying something like 'I'm a rational and scientific person and of course all this Christmas thing is below me and is superstition....' and then they seamlessly slid into their descriptions of Christmas trees, presents, turkey, who they had over for Dinner, their favourite food and drink, the presents for kids etc... but they would throw in the odd additional solemn warning against the meaning of Christmas in case someone thought they actually were enjoying it. |
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Post by Séamus on Dec 11, 2019 8:46:37 GMT
I was surprised to see a rather thoughtful and non-combative segment on sacramental confession on the Claire Byrne Live show yesterday. (I'm not sure if this was a repeat.)[...etc....combative. Liberals will never outright like or approve something Catholic;...etc... I always have a laugh around Christmas at an article in the Guardian/Observer magazine many years ago about 'right on liberal celebs' celebrating Christmas. Can't remember exactly who, but it may have included David Attenborough, Brian Cox, Ricky Gervais and others. They would all start with a solemn sounding intro saying something like 'I'm a rational and scientific person and of course all this Christmas thing is below me and is superstition....' and then they seamlessly slid into their descriptions of Christmas trees, presents, turkey, who they had over for Dinner, their favourite food and drink, the presents for kids etc... but they would throw in the odd additional solemn warning against the meaning of Christmas in case someone thought they actually were enjoying it. Attenborough deals briefly with his first Christmas at the helm of BBC2, during his time as a young network administrator, in his autobiographical Life On Air. Christmas day programming was considered important and it was 2's second ever season. The highlight was French composer Hector Berlioz's oratario L'Enfance du Christ performed specially at Ely Cathedral;on a lighter note a 90 minutes compilation from Charlie Chaplin and similar comedians and a nature documentary from Sweden (with many snowy scenes no doubt). He read a review 'lambasting' his own programme in an evening paper while catching the Underground,but at any rate seems to have seen people's need or desire for sacred music. It was actually visionary- Berlioz has become much more popular in classical circles since. He also speaks of a later stint of producing the Queen's Christmas message,largely uneventful for someone who climbed Amazonian forests and visited unexplored caves as a youngster,except that when he filmed at the stables one year the horses had to be put in backwards so that HM wasn't seen strolling by their rear sides- something I didn't quite understand,knowing little about horses' stables myself. |
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