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Post by kj on Dec 11, 2019 19:30:00 GMT
My own theory is that it's because British culture at large has been almost totally evacuated of even the possibility of the transcendental and all you're left with is the dankest and most banal form of consumerism. Why are British teens having an existential crisis? |
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Post by cato on Dec 11, 2019 23:29:32 GMT
I wonder what their Irish peers believe in?
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Post by kj on Dec 12, 2019 9:20:54 GMT
I believe population numbers is a big factor. The UK's 64 million can lead to a crushing sense of insignificance, which when combined with its bland consumer religion is not exactly going to fire anyone up. At least there's still room to breathe and dream in Ireland, outside of Dublin anyway.
An Irish buddy of mine says he enjoys visiting England, but always comes away feeling the emptiness of life more, which I find interesting.
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Post by 2016proclamation on Dec 12, 2019 9:48:10 GMT
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Post by cato on Dec 12, 2019 13:50:30 GMT
The Brits have been in a cultural spiritual decline for several decades more than us. It didn't stop us rapidly catching up however.
Much of our recent social legislation on abortion , trans rights etc is significantly more liberal than the UK equivalents , which we once denounced as decadent pagan English values. To paraphrase Oscar Wilde "We Are all lying down in the muck together but none of us are looking at the stars ".
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Post by Tomas on Dec 12, 2019 16:26:13 GMT
On a sidenote: can it be that we always too hard tend to find most hope and fresh spirits a bit naively among the youth while at the same time disregarding the fact that most crucial values in reality takes several generations together to truly treasure and preserve? If "lost generations" have become a stark fact in both UK and Ireland by now, is it not utopian to expect much from the most recent generation (almost like a superstition) if/when they for the most - not much by their own fault, important to say! - are practically fostered in a spiritual desert of "nothing" when it comes to beauty in tradition etc?
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Dec 12, 2019 16:50:43 GMT
On a sidenote: can it be that we always too hard tend to find most hope and fresh spirits a bit naively among the youth while at the same time disregarding the fact that most crucial values in reality takes several generations together to truly treasure and preserve? If "lost generations" have become a stark fact in both UK and Ireland by now, is it not utopian to expect much from the most recent generation (almost like a superstition) if/when they for the most - not much by their own fault, important to say! - are practically fostered in a spiritual desert of "nothing" when it comes to beauty in tradition etc? I completely agree. It is putting far too much of a burden on young people to expect them to come up with all the answers, hope, or inspiration. Greta was at least right about that much! |
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Post by cato on Dec 12, 2019 17:37:21 GMT
/quote]I completely agree. It is putting far too much of a burden on young people to expect them to come up with all the answers, hope, or inspiration.
Greta was at least right about that much!
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Greta can be a bit of a doom merchant but she did say somewhere that every little gesture can help in combating climate change.
I only wonder why striking children don't organise to clean up beaches , parks etc instead of screaming at adults they know nothing about. When I was a child we actually did something to help nature and our environment. Some people have been conserving for decades but dont glue themselves to the pavement or sit in the middle of the road to self advertise.
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Post by Tomas on Dec 12, 2019 19:26:07 GMT
The little reason left in my little brain has suddenly begun repeating two most irritating curmudgeon mantras: "old people may know more than you do, son", "if you put all your trust in children you may be fooled by a five year old, baby".
(and the cultish child-prophetess Greta now being heavily marketed as global figurehead may not be too keen to receive any critical remarks close to earth, however true and however kindly presented, as long as it appears like the grown up bastards who dare give them voice may have any strong substantial argument (of whatever kind) going against her own sponsored "party"-agendas, I´m afraid)
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Dec 13, 2019 11:44:27 GMT
In answer to kj's original question: why, isn't it obvious? Because of structural inequalities and cuts in government spending!
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Post by cato on Dec 13, 2019 14:55:52 GMT
In answer to kj's original question: why, isn't it obvious? Because of structural inequalities and cuts in government spending! It has frequently been pointed out how miserable many priviledged wealthy people are. Our young people are probably the most materially and emotionally priviledged in human history. Their parents and grandparents have by and large abandoned Christian and native Irish culture to get to this secular comfortable paradise on earth. Christ's words "What profits a man to gain the whole world if he loses his very soul" are a reproach to our age. They should reproach every believer. They should be be painted over the door of every church in our land. |
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