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Post by kj on Mar 10, 2020 10:45:35 GMT
"Anglicanism is, as my former Anglican diocesan [bishop] explained in sadness more than a decade ago, ‘a 500-year-old ecumenical experiment that has just failed.’” Ashenden explained further: “While it had a platform to Christianize the nation within the context of European Protestantism, it could claim a Gospel rationale. But now that it has surrendered its theological thinking to the fashions and currents of secularism and, in particular, feminism, and made itself acceptable to progressive culture as a price for trying to insulate itself from popular criticism, it has lost its credentials as a church. And it will soon find that it has not managed to buy favor from an increasingly secular popular culture, and so has fallen between two stools.” From Canterbury to Rome: Why the Queen’s Former Chaplain Became Catholic
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Post by Tomas on Mar 12, 2020 18:44:02 GMT
Still I am always getting a slight awkward in the ornery suspicion that some of the increasing contemporary converts may, unconscious or not, be found to err gravely in bringing along offensive Masonic baggage into that "bargain" of crossing the Tiber. Guess this is only me being born pessimist. It would be simply sheer joy if this kind of doubt could be immediately dismissed or had no ground at all in reality. (No reference to the Anglican in this particular post.)
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Post by Séamus on Mar 14, 2020 9:05:11 GMT
"Anglicanism is, as my former Anglican diocesan [bishop] explained in sadness more than a decade ago, ‘a 500-year-old ecumenical experiment that has just failed.’” Ashenden explained further: “While it had a platform to Christianize the nation within the context of European Protestantism, it could claim a Gospel rationale. But now that it has surrendered its theological thinking to the fashions and currents of secularism and, in particular, feminism, and made itself acceptable to progressive culture as a price for trying to insulate itself from popular criticism, it has lost its credentials as a church. And it will soon find that it has not managed to buy favor from an increasingly secular popular culture, and so has fallen between two stools.” From Canterbury to Rome: Why the Queen’s Former Chaplain Became CatholicIf nothing else,it was nice to hear that the Duke of Cambridge was talking about pancakes and Shrove Tuesday at one stage to the young people while in Kildare. I happen to be reading a 128 year old copy of the life of Mother Henrietta Kerr 'daughter of Lord Kerr,son of the sixth Marquis of Lothian'. Although she and her former-protestant-clergyman father were largely influenced by Newman and the Oxford Movement her father,curiously,only 'got into the trappings' of High Anglicanism in a small way before becoming Catholic: "Lord Henry Kerr adopted these changes,though always with moderation...at the risk of creating a disturbance in the parish,he wore a white surplice instead of his silk Cambridge gown...the communion service,from taking place only twice a year,was held every month. He even went so far as to place candlesticks on the communion-table though the candles were never lighted." I don't know how this compares with similar-minded ministers in England,but the Scottish environment may have been Presbyterian-influenced,even for Anglicanism. Two letters of complaint from parishioners about the surplice are included in full. Their Catholicism didn't prevent the family from being connected- Henrietta stayed with a 'Duke and Duchess of Buccleuch' in London,long after deciding to become a nun,and met,during this time,the Prince and Princess of Wales(who were destined to stay in this role nearly as long as the current Wales.)
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