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Post by cato on Jul 28, 2020 20:33:24 GMT
I don't frequent the Shelbourne much but I have been entertained there on a few memorable occasions. It's part of the culture of Dublin, a hotel steeped in history and a base for visiting foreign leaders sports teams etc.
It's manager has removed unilaterally the 4 bronze statues that stand at the front of the hotel. They were erected in 1847 and are (or were) 4 beautiful statues of 2 Nubian princesses and their slave girls ie they depict characters from the biblical era.
There were ZERO complaints about these statues but they were removed lest they cause potential offence.
I wonder will Senator Norris and Georgian Dublian types protest this madness? On the positive side I suspect a few converts may be made to conservatism by this insane ignorant barbarism.
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Post by Starlight on Jul 29, 2020 12:22:23 GMT
I wonder will Senator Norris and Georgian Dublian types protest this madness? On the positive side I suspect a few converts may be made to conservatism by this insane ignorant barbarism. It looks like the Irish Georgian Society does oppose the move. |
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Post by cato on Jul 29, 2020 19:43:13 GMT
I wonder will Senator Norris and Georgian Dublian types protest this madness? On the positive side I suspect a few converts may be made to conservatism by this insane ignorant barbarism. It looks like the Irish Georgian Society does oppose the move. Nice to see that the Georgian Society has lodged a planning law complaint but it's sad that people are welcoming the decision by an architectural preservation society to attempt to do its explicit job. It says a lot about modern Ireland that this isn't an automatic assumption. Senator Norris is currently maintaining radio silence on Twitter. There has been a depressing amount of people on Twitter agreeing with the hotel decision. Some are the newly enraged social justice warriors. Dr Ebun Joseph who regularly likes to lecture Irish people on their racism has claimed most black people didn't see these statues as they are too poor to see them as they couldn't afford to enter the hotel! Perhaps she should be reminded most white people aren't regular diners there either! Our common human right to freely access high class dining is the next human rights struggle. The statues were outside the hotel incidently so any passer by could have admired/or be traumatised by them. Another strand of Twitter criticism objects to caring for anything from the 19th century as it was "British and Imperialist" and we are well rid of it. Perhaps we should tear down every building put up before 1922 ,rip up the roads, water works and sewage system too? Some Irish republican anarchists would have loved Pol Pot and Chairman Maos regimes at their most insane excesses. The company that owns the Shelbourne is a US hotel group that also owns much Irish rental property picked up post the 2010 crash. Some call them Vulture funds . This vulture fund which discriminates against the poor by excluding them from its dining premises and overnight facilities and which broke Irish planning law by vandalising a Dublin street is being defended by Irish left wing activists! I suppose it's a little like those rather mad White middle class American BLM activists you see on TV..... PS Irish Americans are objecting to an Irish Lives Matter campaign , not because our lives don't matter ,but because this devalues Black Lives. Apparently. Anyway that's enough madness for another day. |
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Post by kj on Jul 30, 2020 9:08:44 GMT
Well, as Roger and I were discussing previously Ireland seems more and more like an American colony these days. Incidentally, the Guardian allowed an article puncturing the utopian view of the country that seems to be doing the rounds in certain places these days. The idea of Ireland as a model of competence in the field of social and public health is also one most Irish people might find surprising, since it has its own issues that rarely attract attention from afar: a mounting housing crisis that currently means 10,000 people are homeless in one of the hemisphere’s richest states; a rolling series of healthcare scandals surrounding everything from poor bed provision to faulty cervical cancer tests; and the remarkable saga of the new National Children’s hospital in Dublin, originally budgeted at €400m but is now forecast to be costing around €2.4bn, making it one of the planet’s most expensive buildings.
Ireland isn't really a utopia
Seeking flattery from abroad is one of Ireland’s most crippling and shameful addictions...
Yes indeed. |
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Post by Starlight on Jul 30, 2020 11:35:47 GMT
Senator Norris is currently maintaining radio silence on Twitter. Norris doesn't seem to be active on Twitter, his last three tweets are dated 7th July, 28th May and 1st April. |
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Post by Séamus on Jul 30, 2020 11:43:38 GMT
Well, as Roger and I were discussing previously Ireland seems more and more like an American colony these days. Incidentally, the Guardian allowed an article puncturing the utopian view of the country that seems to be doing the rounds in certain places these days. The idea of Ireland as a model of competence in the field of social and public health is also one most Irish people might find surprising, since it has its own issues that rarely attract attention from afar: a mounting housing crisis that currently means 10,000 people are homeless in one of the hemisphere’s richest states; a rolling series of healthcare scandals surrounding everything from poor bed provision to faulty cervical cancer tests; and the remarkable saga of the new National Children’s hospital in Dublin, originally budgeted at €400m but is now forecast to be costing around €2.4bn, making it one of the planet’s most expensive buildings.
Ireland isn't really a utopia
Seeking flattery from abroad is one of Ireland’s most crippling and shameful addictions...
Yes indeed. Somehow the hyperbolic sentence of the earlier article doesn't make these editorials seem particularly attractive - whatever the advantages of the EU, countries certainly don't cut themselves off from the civilized world for deciding not to belong. I'm assuming that Dublin's Nubian community was originally consulted? I wonder are New Yorkers aware of JeanBaptiste-Camille Corot's Hagar In the Wilderness in one of it's principal galleries? Should the figure of Hagar, imaginatively contemporary to the hotel's figures, be expelled from revelation altogether? Not only does Abraham endorse his wife giving her a few blows,but Paul's New Testament interpretation of her motherhood, (eventually followed by Augustine's) seems to leave her figure in further servitude. And yet a reading of Genesis suggests that she was the first woman after the fall of Eve to receive direct communication from God,slavegirl or no slavegirl. And will Sardinia be able to keep it's provincial flag? I'm even worried about Australia's crusader bugs. Commonly called this because of the cross on their backs,at the moment they often represent the letter X in children's alphabet books of Australian animals,due to underrepresentation of that letter and overrepresentation of K. Unlikely that even Princess Michael of Kent will be able to ride this wave. |
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Post by cato on Jul 30, 2020 16:21:38 GMT
Senator Norris is currently maintaining radio silence on Twitter. Norris doesn't seem to be active on Twitter, his last three tweets are dated 7th July, 28th May and 1st April. He might be one of those people who only use Twitter sparingly or he may have got his fingers burned by it previously. It can be a very nasty forum. He did have a social media fiasco when he was running for president but I don't think it involved Twitter. I may be mistaken. |
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Post by cato on Sept 24, 2020 10:55:27 GMT
The Irish Times has reported today the statues of the Nubian damsels are to be restored. A little victory against the forces of woke hysteria.
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