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Post by kj on Sept 26, 2020 9:46:27 GMT
Mary McAleese bigging herself up. I think she may be a contender for Maolsheachlann's most woke person in Ireland contest: “I'm not a big fan of any particular pope, to be honest,” she says. “I think that Pope Francis is overhyped. I think he's a big disappointment for those who hoped, those who believe the church needed reform and hoped that he would be the reformer, but he hasn't been. He doesn't get the women thing. He really doesn't. He doesn't understand. He doesn't really get the clerical abuse thing. So he does what he's told, he does what his advisor tell him. So I think he's probably a decent enough man. But the job that he has is way beyond his capabilities. "And so the church under his leadership has not progressed in any way ... he still does what every other pope does. He gets up on the platform, and he talks to the world. He talks about climate change. That's so easy. He talks about migrants. And that's easy. And he talks about the poor. And that's also easy. What else would a Christian do in those circumstances? But ask him to turn his gaze internally to the church, to its structures, to its teachings, to its assumptions and presumptions to the consequences of those teachings. And that doesn't happen." Mary Mc Aleese on herself |
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Post by assisi on Sept 26, 2020 13:52:45 GMT
Mary McAleese bigging herself up. I think she may be a contender for Maolsheachlann's most woke person in Ireland contest: “I'm not a big fan of any particular pope, to be honest,” she says. “I think that Pope Francis is overhyped. I think he's a big disappointment for those who hoped, those who believe the church needed reform and hoped that he would be the reformer, but he hasn't been. He doesn't get the women thing. He really doesn't. He doesn't understand. He doesn't really get the clerical abuse thing. So he does what he's told, he does what his advisor tell him. So I think he's probably a decent enough man. But the job that he has is way beyond his capabilities. "And so the church under his leadership has not progressed in any way ... he still does what every other pope does. He gets up on the platform, and he talks to the world. He talks about climate change. That's so easy. He talks about migrants. And that's easy. And he talks about the poor. And that's also easy. What else would a Christian do in those circumstances? But ask him to turn his gaze internally to the church, to its structures, to its teachings, to its assumptions and presumptions to the consequences of those teachings. And that doesn't happen." Mary Mc Aleese on herselfIf Mary was Pope(ss) she'd destroy the Church overnight. She is right in the second paragraph that Pope Francis (and lots of Bishops) talk about the 'safe' issues that overlap with the liberal mindset. But Mary is doing exactly the same as Pope Francis. She is denigrating the Church through a feminist lens which will be highly acceptable to the liberal set. Pity she didn't make a stand on abortion when we needed her most. Maybe if she had opposed abortion then Mary would have been 'cancelled' and her memoir burned, and no more slots on RTE, newspapers and magazines. |
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Post by cato on Sept 26, 2020 15:39:18 GMT
Perhaps Mary ( once mentioned as a possible lay cardinal a few years ago) should name her memoirs "Its all about Mary".
Like her or loathe her the memoirs are pretty light weight. I skimmed through a copy in Easons and her public career deserves better than this. She was a significant figure in legal, broadcasting, church and presidential terms. Once apon a time Mary was an Irish bishops spokesperson on various family matters. She opposed divorce and contraception in the 1980s. She also defended gay rights earlier in the 1970s when this was taboo in catholic circles. She held the same legal post in TCD as Mary Robinson who also was a gay rights advocate .This has been one constant theme with her throughout her career. I recall she has/had a gay sibling which may have motivated her as well as a gay son .
As president she did take a moderately
Catholic progressive line . She defied Cardinal Connell by publically receiving the Anglican Eucharist in Christchurch as part of her bridge building agenda. She was also a lay canon of St Patrick's Anglican Cathedral of Ireland in Dublin. Mary is a very churchy type of Catholic with a perhaps over keen interest in ecclesiastical wheeling and dealing.
I watched a virtual Q and A with Mary as part of a catholic Vincentian charity talk yesterday. Mary denounced a clerical legalistic , rules based , principled approach to morality in favour of "Story telling"! This was in relation to Repeal of course when she publically announced she was voting to remove the fundamental right to the life of the unborn. To hear an academic lawyer poo poo the law was dismaying. Of course morality is not the straw man caricature she set up but about profound truths about our sacred human dignity . It says a lot about a certain cheap hectoring aggressive edge to much of her public campaigning.
Mary was always part of a Northern catholic middle class growing up in the 1960s who played catch up with their southern counterparts who were busy casting off nationalism and Catholicism. That class personified by the SDLP are now ideologically as corrupt as Fianna Fail/Fine Gael/Sinn Fein.
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