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Post by eoghan7 on Oct 24, 2020 15:19:20 GMT
Irish American here. My surname is Fitzpatrick (Mac Giolla Phádraig) and I am very active in The Fitzpatrick - Mac Giolla Phádraig Clan Society (www.fitzpatricksociety.com). Through our clan society, we aim to unite all Fitzpatricks and related surnames into a group which shares a sense of identity, culture, and helps each other with genealogical and historical information. Our last clan chief, the 2nd Lord Castletown, died in 1937 and we are open to finding a legitimate chieftain. Every few years, we gather in Ireland to meet and visit historical sites. We organize gatherings outside of Ireland as well. It helps me maintain an active connection to Ireland and her people today. I see other clans societies for a variety of surnames are also gaining ground in promoting their own histories across the world. The Clans of Ireland group has promoted their interests in helping other clan societies organize, and the Standing Council of Irish Chiefs exists as a body to promote interest in Irish clanship as well. Clan societies provide a a vehicle for a clan to organize, research, and if possible, declare a Chief for the clan from amongst their own ranks, legitimized by the ratification of those who are most ardent in re-forging a living clan identity.
Much participation comes from the worldwide Diaspora. How interested are most Irish people in forming, joining, and participating in clan societies for their own surnames? Does the idea of clan chiefs appeal to citizens of the Republic? The cultural benefits could be very high, and could unite people not only across the border between North and South, but across the world and bring back an integral part of Irish heritage. Chiefs would provide a visual and cultural focal point for ethnic Irish people all over the world to rally behind and keep the Irish identity from washing out against the tide of Western monoculture. Arms, crests, badges, Gaeilge and other traditional symbols aid with this identity. I’m of the opinion that it’s worth even reviving the ancient Gaelic titles the chiefs held, without the conflict between them, and the power of the British Crown now mostly out of Ireland, at least for nominal usage.
What are people’s thoughts on this, reviving Irish clans and promoting chiefs as a living cultural institution? I think more natives and youth need to be awakened to this idea.
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Post by Bréanánn Ó Catháin on Oct 24, 2020 18:15:45 GMT
I live in Conamara, currently. Irish American from New York.
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Post by assisi on Oct 26, 2020 17:36:32 GMT
Irish American here. My surname is Fitzpatrick (Mac Giolla Phádraig) and I am very active in The Fitzpatrick - Mac Giolla Phádraig Clan Society (www.fitzpatricksociety.com). Through our clan society, we aim to unite all Fitzpatricks and related surnames into a group which shares a sense of identity, culture, and helps each other with genealogical and historical information. Our last clan chief, the 2nd Lord Castletown, died in 1937 and we are open to finding a legitimate chieftain. Every few years, we gather in Ireland to meet and visit historical sites. We organize gatherings outside of Ireland as well. It helps me maintain an active connection to Ireland and her people today. I see other clans societies for a variety of surnames are also gaining ground in promoting their own histories across the world. The Clans of Ireland group has promoted their interests in helping other clan societies organize, and the Standing Council of Irish Chiefs exists as a body to promote interest in Irish clanship as well. Clan societies provide a a vehicle for a clan to organize, research, and if possible, declare a Chief for the clan from amongst their own ranks, legitimized by the ratification of those who are most ardent in re-forging a living clan identity. Much participation comes from the worldwide Diaspora. How interested are most Irish people in forming, joining, and participating in clan societies for their own surnames? Does the idea of clan chiefs appeal to citizens of the Republic? The cultural benefits could be very high, and could unite people not only across the border between North and South, but across the world and bring back an integral part of Irish heritage. Chiefs would provide a visual and cultural focal point for ethnic Irish people all over the world to rally behind and keep the Irish identity from washing out against the tide of Western monoculture. Arms, crests, badges, Gaeilge and other traditional symbols aid with this identity. I’m of the opinion that it’s worth even reviving the ancient Gaelic titles the chiefs held, without the conflict between them, and the power of the British Crown now mostly out of Ireland, at least for nominal usage. What are people’s thoughts on this, reviving Irish clans and promoting chiefs as a living cultural institution? I think more natives and youth need to be awakened to this idea. It's definitely a good idea. Unfortunately, like all such undertakings, the hard work and organisation usually ends up being done by the few, so it can turn out to be a thankless task, but one worth doing. There was a time in the 1980s, I think, when there was a lot of activity in the local press about getting details of our clan. I remember filling out details and asking my father and relatives about their fathers and grandfathers and finding out interesting little snippets. I think at that time the clan elected a chieftain who was an exile from Spain but I haven't heard if his ancestry line has inherited that role. I do now see that there is a pretty good website for my clan. Earlier this year I intended visiting many of the castles associated with the clan as they are dotted around Donegal. And, God willing, I will start doing this come the Spring should the virus be fading. Coincidentally I thought that a good gift this year would be to get the coat of arms for both my clan and my wife's clan from a local craft shop rather than get the usual forgettable stuff from Amazon etc. Hopefully one of my kids will end up taking an interest too. |
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Post by Wayne on Oct 27, 2020 5:05:31 GMT
Irish American here. My surname is Fitzpatrick (Mac Giolla Phádraig) and I am very active in The Fitzpatrick - Mac Giolla Phádraig Clan Society (www.fitzpatricksociety.com). Through our clan society, we aim to unite all Fitzpatricks and related surnames into a group which shares a sense of identity, culture, and helps each other with genealogical and historical information. Our last clan chief, the 2nd Lord Castletown, died in 1937 and we are open to finding a legitimate chieftain. Every few years, we gather in Ireland to meet and visit historical sites. We organize gatherings outside of Ireland as well. It helps me maintain an active connection to Ireland and her people today. I see other clans societies for a variety of surnames are also gaining ground in promoting their own histories across the world. The Clans of Ireland group has promoted their interests in helping other clan societies organize, and the Standing Council of Irish Chiefs exists as a body to promote interest in Irish clanship as well. Clan societies provide a a vehicle for a clan to organize, research, and if possible, declare a Chief for the clan from amongst their own ranks, legitimized by the ratification of those who are most ardent in re-forging a living clan identity. Much participation comes from the worldwide Diaspora. How interested are most Irish people in forming, joining, and participating in clan societies for their own surnames? Does the idea of clan chiefs appeal to citizens of the Republic? The cultural benefits could be very high, and could unite people not only across the border between North and South, but across the world and bring back an integral part of Irish heritage. Chiefs would provide a visual and cultural focal point for ethnic Irish people all over the world to rally behind and keep the Irish identity from washing out against the tide of Western monoculture. Arms, crests, badges, Gaeilge and other traditional symbols aid with this identity. I’m of the opinion that it’s worth even reviving the ancient Gaelic titles the chiefs held, without the conflict between them, and the power of the British Crown now mostly out of Ireland, at least for nominal usage. What are people’s thoughts on this, reviving Irish clans and promoting chiefs as a living cultural institution? I think more natives and youth need to be awakened to this idea. |
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Post by Wayne on Oct 27, 2020 5:07:05 GMT
Gidday mate i`m a Aussie McAuliffe and all for getting the Clans back.My lot are big in Cork and have a Gathering there every 4 years.
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