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Post by Seán Ó Murchú on Apr 12, 2021 10:32:19 GMT
Last week Buckingham Palace announced that HRH Prince Philip the Duke of Edinburgh, husband and consort of Her Majesty the Queen, has died peacefully at Windsor Castle, aged 99 years old. What do people on the forum think of Prince Philip and the Protestant British monarchy? What ever the case Requiescat In Pace to Prince Philip 10 June 1921 – 9 April 2021.  |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Apr 12, 2021 17:09:12 GMT
I'm a strong supporter of constitutional monarchy and greatly admire Queen Elizabeth the II. I relished her late husband's outraging of PC sensibilities down the years.
Personally I would support Ireland's re-entry into the Commonwealth although I would prefer we had our own monarch. But that's even less likely.
I'm not sure "Protestant" applies as the Church of England considers itself Catholic. In any case, the monarch's role of guardian of the Faith now seems nominal. I would be sad to see disestablishment of the Church of England. It would be a victory for secularism only.
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Post by cato on Apr 12, 2021 18:20:47 GMT
The Duke had a troubled childhood and youth and for years put "No fixed abode" down as his address. His mother was the eccentric saintly Princess Alice honoured by Israel for saving a Jewish family from Nazism.
He was often accused of racialism but unlike the blue haired pasty faced experts in inter-sectional theory he was personally involved in combat with Fascist Italians, German and Japanese military ie real Fascists and not the fantasy figures imagined by leftist social justice warriors. When Elizabeth II dies the last global figure who took part personally in the great war against Nazi tyranny will be gone. It will be the end of an era.The last formal link with Empire will be gone for better and for worse.
I liked his humour , his irreverence towards journalists, and his devotion to his wife and duty. He had true character. Shaking the hand of Martin Mc Guinness must have been personally revolting but we will never know as he never whinged or cried about it in public. A prince among men.
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Post by Séamus on Apr 14, 2021 23:53:23 GMT
I'm very much a supporter of the Royals for the British,but not really beyond that.
Photos of a recently born Père David's deer,a species saved from extinction by a British aristocrat on his hereditary property,does show however how being born into privilege can come to good use.
If one reads about the British monarchy,it becomes apparent that the in-laws have had a lion's share in keeping the firm going, Phillip followed in the steps of the strong personalities of the Queen's mother, Princess Mary of Teck,Prince Albert and the Danish daughter-in-law of Victoria,who all contributed in a vastly important way. And heaven knows what interest today's world would have in them had Diana not rekindled it.
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Post by cato on Apr 15, 2021 17:24:05 GMT
I would dearly love to have Elizabeth II as our head of state just like Australia, New Zealand , Canada and many other Commonwealth countries. The idea they are somehow under the British jackboot is absurd. Those that want Irish unity seem to insist on everything that makes us distinct ie non British or anything related to Britian. That's fine and dandy except we expect Unionists to abandon all their links to the crown in a new Ireland. Recent polls indicate a reluctance to concede anything symbolic in a future United state.
Elizabeth is an exemplary constitutional head of state unlike the last three Irish presidencies, when a deliberately restricted symbolic non partisan office has been re-engineered as a progressive leftist soap box. Our current president is easily most ideological of any democratic state in Europe. He doesn't represent me or many people who don't share his clapped out neo Marxist sludge.
There is a slight problem of the succession granted. Charles is regarded as a reformer. However he is an architural traditionalist and much of his green agenda comes from a conservationist mind set. Not quite conservative but moving in the right direction!
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Post by assisi on Apr 15, 2021 18:16:25 GMT
I would dearly love to have Elizabeth II as our head of state just like Australia, New Zealand , Canada and many other Commonwealth countries. The idea they are somehow under the British jackboot is absurd. Those that want Irish unity seem to insist on everything that makes us distinct ie non British or anything related to Britian. That's fine and dandy except we expect Unionists to abandon all their links to the crown in a new Ireland. Recent polls indicate a reluctance to concede anything symbolic in a future United state. Elizabeth is an exemplary constitutional head of state unlike the last three Irish presidencies, when a deliberately restricted symbolic non partisan office has been re-engineered as a progressive leftist soap box. Our current president is easily most ideological of any democratic state in Europe. He doesn't represent me or many people who don't share his clapped out neo Marxist sludge. There is a slight problem of the succession granted. Charles is regarded as a reformer. However he is an architural traditionalist and much of his green agenda comes from a conservationist mind set. Not quite conservative but moving in the right direction! It's all up in the air at the moment. Britain is as much in danger of losing its identity as Ireland is under the relentless drive of globalism. Prince William is showing signs of pandering to the liberal left and political correctness, and he would be the future king if Charles, who is no spring chicken, were to die. The recent Markle accusations of racism against the royal family are actually an effective strategy for wokism. Most people want to avoid such accusations so badly that they tend to go full woke in order to show that they are not racist, thus ending up compromised and always overcompensating with their liberalism. The reason the Queen is so successful is that she is dutiful and says next to nothing political. |
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Post by cato on Apr 15, 2021 21:45:47 GMT
The reason the Queen is so successful is that she is dutiful and says next to nothing political.[/quote]
Precisely Assisi.
She understands the importance of political neutrality , and the necessity for a mystery/fantasy atmosphere surrounding the crown. It's a make believe but one that has worked so far. It may fail as you suggest. Lest anyone in this fair Isle feel superior, democracy , equality and European solidarity are also political myths under severe pressure.
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Post by Séamus on Jun 7, 2021 12:26:38 GMT
Last week Buckingham Palace announced that HRH Prince Philip the Duke of Edinburgh, husband and consort of Her Majesty the Queen, has died peacefully at Windsor Castle, aged 99 years old. What do people on the forum think of Prince Philip and the Protestant British monarchy? What ever the case Requiescat In Pace to Prince Philip 10 June 1921 – 9 April 2021. I had never heard of William Westenra(+4/5/21), Lord Rossmore, until coming across an obituary yesterday, but I thought that his life is worth noting due to some points of circumstantial importance to recent aristocratic AngloIrish history: the seat of the barony is south of the border(Monaghan), in a sense he was born a subject of both the Irish Republic and the King of England; Their residence (the castle's gamekeeper cottage) was destroyed by the IRA shortly after he inherited the title of 7th Baron Rossmore. Perhaps more disturbing was the earlier demolition of Rossmore Castle itself due to neglect. Despite this he worked hard for drug addicts in Dublin area. His claim-to-fame seems to have mostly consisted in dating Marianne Faithfull, whose problems initially got him interested in fighting drug addiction. While reading, it caught my attention that, despite later opening an addict centre in Coolmine,he expected long sojourns in Ireland to help cure Ms Faithfull's drug problem. While his country wasn't untouched by any means, he viewed it as significantly superior to the heady scene in psychedelic London. If Lord Rossmore is a unique snapshot of the era,we can see snapshot of the changing world order also- how half-untouched enclaves around the world,like rural Ireland, have possibly all been lost since the sizzling 1970s. At 90, he nearly did as well as his Queen's consort too. |
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