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Post by Tomas on Sept 13, 2021 12:34:15 GMT
During 1,5 year now we have been blessed daily with our most beloved relic, the particle from the Holy Cross given from our "mother church" in Rome Santa Croce de Gerusalemme, and venerated especiallt tomorrow night in our patronate feast. The prayer is always said in latin and we pray on our knees for an end to the pandemic, including help against illness/es and protection for our parish (and blessing for all inhabitants of the Town). The rituale has various petition lines and several signs of the Cross within, towards the latter part at one time three in a row that makes for rather fast moves! After all unfoldings this last year I sincerely hope that this sickening and degrading p(l)andemic will actually be given up. Even the worst players have possibly not much more to gain at this stage? |
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Post by Stephen on Sept 14, 2021 8:24:26 GMT
During 1,5 year now we have been blessed daily with our most beloved relic, the particle from the Holy Cross given from our "mother church" in Rome Santa Croce de Gerusalemme, and venerated especiallt tomorrow night in our patronate feast. The prayer is always said in latin and we pray on our knees for an end to the pandemic, including help against illness/es and protection for our parish (and blessing for all inhabitants of the Town). The rituale has various petition lines and several signs of the Cross within, towards the latter part at one time three in a row that makes for rather fast moves! After all unfoldings this last year I sincerely hope that this sickening and degrading p(l)andemic will actually be given up. Even the worst players have possibly not much more to gain at this stage? I this carried out in Ireland? |
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Post by Tomas on Sept 14, 2021 9:24:24 GMT
During 1,5 year now we have been blessed daily with our most beloved relic, the particle from the Holy Cross given from our "mother church" in Rome Santa Croce de Gerusalemme, and venerated especiallt tomorrow night in our patronate feast. The prayer is always said in latin and we pray on our knees for an end to the pandemic, including help against illness/es and protection for our parish (and blessing for all inhabitants of the Town). The rituale has various petition lines and several signs of the Cross within, towards the latter part at one time three in a row that makes for rather fast moves! After all unfoldings this last year I sincerely hope that this sickening and degrading p(l)andemic will actually be given up. Even the worst players have possibly not much more to gain at this stage? I this carried out in Ireland? No all is from my Conservative home parish, in Sweden. |
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Post by Stephen on Sept 14, 2021 9:47:03 GMT
I this carried out in Ireland? No all is from my Conservative home parish, in Sweden. My Goodness, I didn't know you live in Sweden. Is it NO or TLM? probably a silly question, Image it is NO if you start with Conservative home parish. |
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Post by Tomas on Sept 14, 2021 10:20:35 GMT
No all is from my Conservative home parish, in Sweden. My Goodness, I didn't know you live in Sweden. Is it NO or TLM? probably a silly question, Image it is NO if you start with Conservative home parish. It is BUT to this must be added, the Wonder of having a tremendous blessed privilege to have been graced with the holiest Sacraments by the most deeply conservative or Conservative priest in the whole country!!! (or rather: anywhere) |
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Post by Tomas on Sept 14, 2021 10:25:44 GMT
No all is from my Conservative home parish, in Sweden. My Goodness, I didn't know you live in Sweden. Is it NO or TLM? probably a silly question, Image it is NO if you start with Conservative home parish. Parishioners are mostly common and poor if you count numbers but we have all people, and a thriving attendence in Mass for decades. |
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Post by cato on Sept 14, 2021 11:02:43 GMT
The famous flight of the Earls from Donegal in 1607 occurred on the feast of the Holy Cross. Hugh O Neill had a relic of the true Cross in a gold reliquary which they used to trail in the water during a storm as they made their way to France.
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Post by Stephen on Sept 14, 2021 12:16:48 GMT
My Goodness, I didn't know you live in Sweden. Is it NO or TLM? probably a silly question, Image it is NO if you start with Conservative home parish. It is BUT to this must be added, the Wonder of having a tremendous blessed privilege to have been graced with the holiest Sacraments by the most deeply conservative or Conservative priest in the whole country!!! (or rather: anywhere) I am glad to here you have a pious Priest, I would image Sweden is a mixed bag. |
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Post by Tomas on Sept 14, 2021 15:58:37 GMT
It is BUT to this must be added, the Wonder of having a tremendous blessed privilege to have been graced with the holiest Sacraments by the most deeply conservative or Conservative priest in the whole country!!! (or rather: anywhere) I am glad to here you have a pious Priest, I would image Sweden is a mixed bag. That´s true. Trying to go by what is told from several other countries it may be overall even less frequent with loose measures in terms or liturgy etc. That said Stockholm Diocese (=Sweden) have no reason to boost in regard to most of the other standard topics elsewise, speaking free and firm against the globalist political zeitgeist for instance, for in that department we appears to be over-adjusting and timid and questionable enough. The major weakness comes thus not in doctrine or liturgy, which are mostly kept straight within a *John Paul II inspired* Novus Ordo in general (basically so, I´m not even aware of any disturbing exceptions at all), but is on the other hand commonly heard in various public statements, that tends to be either overly polite or simply absent. Much "ecumenism" still going on officially slowly in the usual suspects type of bodies, as also sometimes outside in connection to some programmatic event (and not leading to conversions in any direct sense). Perhaps our deep roots of Lutheranism has some paradoxical benefit in connection to the above after all. While the Church of Sweden has gone astray in its extremely feminist and other "theologies" out of limits, and also lost popular attendance in their churches, we still have retained much elements of that heavy brutish outlook in Swedish mentality. My hypothes might suggest that liturgical practises can look more fair from the outside than the minds would do inside if challenged in any orthodox Catholic understanding. But problems lies more on the Protestant side, and the worst on the Catholic side is the huge Liberal domination carrying "Protestant features" along after. Just some thoughts. Regarding our parish it is like heaven. No inch of any false modernism to be found in any corner of the magnificent sermons and gem distribution of sacraments, many beautiful practices from long before V2 etc, and so in this way it means one rare Wonder of utterly blessed usage in countless old Catholic traditions being upheld - somehow like a safe haven thanks to the Grace of God - by our Bavarian hero Priest & the Polish Sisters, keeping the Faith with the company of the Saints! I only wish we could bear more plentiful fruit outside the parish church, in this decade reaching out better in society than we have succeded before now. Prayers is the only key that can make it change in the end. |
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Post by Seán Ó Murchú on Sept 14, 2021 16:16:41 GMT
I am glad to here you have a pious Priest, I would image Sweden is a mixed bag. That´s true. Trying to go by what is told from several other countries it may be overall even less frequent with loose measures in terms or liturgy etc. That said Stockholm Diocese (=Sweden) have no reason to boost in regard to most of the other standard topics elsewise, speaking free and firm against the globalist political zeitgeist for instance, for in that department we appears to be over-adjusting and timid and questionable enough. The major weakness comes thus not in doctrine or liturgy, which are mostly kept straight within a *John Paul II inspired* Novus Ordo in general (basically so, I´m not even aware of any disturbing exceptions at all), but is on the other hand commonly heard in various public statements, that tends to be either overly polite or simply absent. Much "ecumenism" still going on officially slowly in the usual suspects type of bodies, as also sometimes outside in connection to some programmatic event (and not leading to conversions in any direct sense). Perhaps our deep roots of Lutheranism has some paradoxical benefit in connection to the above after all. While the Church of Sweden has gone astray in its extremely feminist and other "theologies" out of limits, and also lost popular attendance in their churches, we still have retained much elements of that heavy brutish outlook in Swedish mentality. My hypothes might suggest that liturgical practises can look more fair from the outside than the minds would do inside if challenged in any orthodox Catholic understanding. But problems lies more on the Protestant side, and the worst on the Catholic side is the huge Liberal domination carrying "Protestant features" along after. Just some thoughts... Regarding our parish it is like heaven. No inch of any false modernism to be found in any corner of the magnificent sermons and gem distribution of Sacraments, many beautiful practices from long before V2 etc, and so in this way it means one rare Wonder of utterly blessed usage in countless old Catholic traditions being upheld - somehow like a safe haven thanks to the Grace of God - by our Bavarian hero Priest & the Polish Sisters, keeping the Faith with the company of the Saints! I only wish we could bear more plentiful fruit outside the parish church, in this decade reaching out better in society than we have succeded before now. Prayers is the only key that can make it change in the end. Hello Thomas, Your parish sounds like the mythical reverent Novus order Parish. May I drive abit deeper? Is our blessed lord given out on the tongue while kneeling at the altar rails? Are extraordinary minsters used ordinarily? Do you use "altar Girls"? Is the Mass offered towards our lord which I assume is in the tabernacle? Do the people do readings? Is Latin given pride of place and chant sung? I'm not trying to annoy and your description above is moving. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 14, 2021 17:12:33 GMT
I attended lunchtime Mass in UCD today for the first time since Covid. A new priest was there who uses some Latin (for the Kyrie Eleison, for instance) and sung much of it solemnly.
I thought I would mention this to please the traditionally-minded. Being a Novus Ordo Catholic, I was of course yearning for tambourines myself.
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Post by Tomas on Sept 14, 2021 20:25:50 GMT
Hello Thomas, Your parish sounds like the mythical reverent Novus order Parish. May I drive abit deeper? Is our blessed lord given out on the tongue while kneeling at the altar rails? Are extraordinary minsters used ordinarily? Do you use "altar Girls"? Is the Mass offered towards our lord which I assume is in the tabernacle? Do the people do readings? Is Latin given pride of place and chant sung? I'm not trying to annoy and your description above is moving. You could rest assured we are blessed with the real. Fr. would in knowing hearts be considered better like against every modernist the strongest reactionary anyday (by majority as also by those right of mainstream in our Holy Roman Church outside Scandinavia) if not, more politely, one pastoral Shepherd personally imbued the darkest blue Conservative - yet a most courteous and loved one - and I would not only annoy myself but also his integrity by assuming to fail to your questionaire. Thus it is not in remote a milimeter considered such as alteration on the Catholic line of the altar boys, use of latin often when possible and same for Gregorian chant (but only small laymen schola and no resources available, so "only" for the Tridentine Mass, i.e. once every month all since H.H. Benedict XVI made his decision), holy communion always on the tongue, no extraordinary or lay ministers close to the altar and sacrifice of the Mass, and much besides this. Thanks to his saintly efforts - and efforts they are! - we have souls on the road to heaven, no less truth to put it succintly. Without him I might have never even got caught for conversion/s myself. There is no single priest that has done more in our "spiritual quarry". Last expression came from the predecessor, another Bavarian hardliner of the oldest school. Hope this can convince you of some good reason for hopes or astonishment. |
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Post by Tomas on Sept 15, 2021 4:42:40 GMT
What we have been given is real piety and a silent bliss for faithfulness. Even though Saint Bridget's sons and daughters are in the periphery, and sadly coldened Sweden has a long way to walk before coming alive in terms of core catholicism, there are least candles of light in the North still.
Please pray for us, for conversions.
"To make a difference".
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