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Post by Maolsheachlann on Feb 15, 2022 11:21:26 GMT
Is it my imagination, or is the reaction against the woke agenda become more open and mainstream?
Perhaps the creation of GB News has something to do with this. I think we'll be waiting a long time for an Irish equivalent. Gript.ie does a good job but can't really be the same thing.
The outcry against the new Lord of the Rings TV series has been almost universal, as far as I can see.
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Post by Séamus on Feb 17, 2022 2:16:34 GMT
Is it my imagination, or is the reaction against the woke agenda become more open and mainstream? Perhaps the creation of GB News has something to do with this. I think we'll be waiting a long time for an Irish equivalent. Gript.ie does a good job but can't really be the same thing. The outcry against the new Lord of the Rings TV series has been almost universal, as far as I can see. Not that the earlier films were perfect- a female green elf warrior added to the Hobbit series was unnecessary. And Glorfindel was given the boot in favour of a female of mixed-elfism in Fellowship. Being male and blonde he'll be lucky to get in this one either. What we learn from Tolkien's Éowyn is that combatant females were anomalous,she had to disguise herself to fight. I only read in a pirate magazine recently (hadn't realised they existed either...it belonged to someone doing a uni history course) that the episode with the witch-king was possibly copied from a real or semi-historical incident of a female pirate who revealed her sex to a confused enemy she'd been fighting before finishing him off. The mention,in Rings, of some races of obvious non-caucasian appearance- some fighting for Sauron,other mysterious forest people gave some assistance to the Gandalf camp- proves something similar. There are diverse roles that could be elaborated on without being too unfaithful to the text but no need to turn it into a free-for-all. Hopefully the complaints also indicate a faithfulness to original literature also.
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Post by Stephen on Feb 17, 2022 10:08:42 GMT
Is it my imagination, or is the reaction against the woke agenda become more open and mainstream? Perhaps the creation of GB News has something to do with this. I think we'll be waiting a long time for an Irish equivalent. Gript.ie does a good job but can't really be the same thing. The outcry against the new Lord of the Rings TV series has been almost universal, as far as I can see. Gript.ie = controlled opposition
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Post by kj on Feb 17, 2022 10:25:02 GMT
Gript.ie = controlled opposition What exactly would "uncontrolled opposition" look like?
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Feb 17, 2022 11:29:20 GMT
Gript.ie = controlled opposition What exactly would "uncontrolled opposition" look like? I think that's a good question. I hear so many things described as controlled opposition, including Donald Trump. It seems almost impossible to verify or falsify. And surely there's a danger of going down a whirlpool of suspicion if we start thinking like this. I must say I haven't seen anything in Gript.ie that suggests controlled opposition, they say things that are highly inimical to the narrative of official Ireland. I have tried to become controlled opposition myself but nobody wants to buy me out.
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Post by kj on Feb 17, 2022 11:37:00 GMT
"Controlled Opposition" seems to be a phrase used by the self-appointed elite of the hyper-conspiracy types. Anyone who uses any sort of conventional media seems to be labelled with it by that lot, which pretty much includes everyone on the planet, except themselves of course, miraculously.
I'm trying to recall if I've seen any Trad Caths label Vigano CO.
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Post by Stephen on Feb 17, 2022 14:20:16 GMT
Gript.ie = controlled opposition What exactly would "uncontrolled opposition" look like? Gript is just another Neocon (Liberal) outlet that just happens to be in Ireland and would be very interesting to see where it or its founder get funding! When I say they are controlled opposition, I don't mean there is a grand secret conspiracy. The two-party system work in a similar way. Blue team vs red team. It's an illusion of choice, like democracy.
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Post by Stephen on Feb 17, 2022 14:22:43 GMT
What exactly would "uncontrolled opposition" look like? I think that's a good question. I hear so many things described as controlled opposition, including Donald Trump. It seems almost impossible to verify or falsify. And surely there's a danger of going down a whirlpool of suspicion if we start thinking like this. I must say I haven't seen anything in Gript.ie that suggests controlled opposition, they say things that are highly inimical to the narrative of official Ireland. I have tried to become controlled opposition myself but nobody wants to buy me out. What Opposition looks like today
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Feb 17, 2022 14:27:30 GMT
Well, we could post lots of of pictures like that. Attachments:
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Feb 17, 2022 14:30:41 GMT
What exactly would "uncontrolled opposition" look like? Gript is just another Neocon (Liberal) outlet that just happens to be in Ireland and would be very interesting to see where it or its founder get funding! When I say they are controlled opposition, I don't mean there is a grand secret conspiracy. The two-party system work in a similar way. Blue team vs red team. It's an illusion of choice, like democracy. I guess I have to echo what kj asked...if democracy is an "illusion of choice", what would you accept as actual choice? I'm not completely disagreeing with you. I think probably all of us would agree there's no real political opposition in Ireland, that we essentially have a one-party system. But the only people to blame for that are the voters. (As I've never voted for the mainstream parties, except once when an FF candidate suckered me into thinking he was pro-life, I'm not taking any of the blame personally...)
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Post by Stephen on Feb 17, 2022 14:35:22 GMT
Gript is just another Neocon (Liberal) outlet that just happens to be in Ireland and would be very interesting to see where it or its founder get funding! When I say they are controlled opposition, I don't mean there is a grand secret conspiracy. The two-party system work in a similar way. Blue team vs red team. It's an illusion of choice, like democracy. I guess I have to echo what kj asked...if democracy is an "illusion of choice", what would you accept as actual choice? I'm highlighting that we do not have a choice and the different political "options" are different sides of the materialist coin. I'm not a democrat, you can keep your vote.
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Post by kj on Feb 17, 2022 14:39:15 GMT
So for something not to be "controlled opposition" everything would have to be torn down and a whole political and social system would have to be built from scratch?
As for parties echoing each other, or offering limited alternatives, that's just the nature of reality given that each party or individual has to deal with the same issues that quite often have only a finite number of possible solutions.
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Post by Stephen on Feb 17, 2022 14:40:59 GMT
Well, we could post lots of of pictures like that. 1993 – Tony August, a man with connections to the Atlantic City casino industry, writes to Bill Clinton. In the letter, August mentions Trump and writes: “…if you two don’t know each other you should. You have much in common, age, broad vision for the future and most importantly, the resources and desire to make America bigger and better than it already is.” 1999 – Bill Clinton appoints Maryanne Trump Barry (Trump’s sister) to be a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit.The appointment is to replace Judge H. Lee Sarokin, who had retired in 1996. 2000 – Jared Kushner (Donald’s son-in-law; Ivanka’s husband) contributes $1,000 to the Hillary Rodham Clinton for US Senate campaign. 2000 – Bill and Hillary Clinton Clinton meet with Trump in New York at Trump Tower for a real estate “photo opportunity.” 2002 – Donald Trump donates $1,000 to Hillary Clinton’s New York Senate campaign. 2003 – Jared Kushner contributes $2,000 to Friends of Hillary. 2005 – The Trump Organization contributes $1,000 to Friends of Hillary; Donald Trump donates $2,900 to Hillary Clinton’s re-election campaign for US Senate. 2005 – Bill and Hillary Clinton attend Donald Trump and Melania Knauss’ wedding. 2006 – Donald Trump contributes $1,000 to Hillary Clinton’s re-election campaign for US Senate and $200 to Friends of Hillary; Trump Enterprises contributes $2,100 to Friends of Hillary. 2006 – Ivanka Trump contributes $2,300 to Hillary Clinton for President campaign fund. 2007 – Trump Enterprises contributes $4,000 to Hillary Clinton for President campaign fund; Donald Trump donates $1,000 to Hillary Clinton’s re-election campaign for US Senate. 2008 – Bill Clinton and Donald Trump golf together at Joe Torre’s charity event, the Safe at Home Foundation Golf Classic at Trump National Golf Club in Briarcliff Manor, New York. 2008 – Chelsea Clinton and Jared Kushner attend the annual New York Gala for American Friends of the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra (Kushner is a co-chair of the organization). 2009 – the Donald J. Trump Foundation donates $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation. 2010 – Trump’s foundation, a registered 501(c) group, gave another $10,000 to the Clinton Foundation. 2015 – Chelsea Clinton praises her friend Ivanka Trump in a feature interview for Vogue.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Feb 17, 2022 14:41:52 GMT
I guess I have to echo what kj asked...if democracy is an "illusion of choice", what would you accept as actual choice? I'm highlighting that we do not have a choice and the different political "options" are different sides of the materialist coin. I'm not a democrat, you can keep your vote. I understand you're not a democrat. But my question is more, if democracy doesn't offer a real choice, what sort of system would offer a real choice? Or do you think this shouldn't a criterion when it comes to a political system?
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Post by kj on Feb 17, 2022 14:43:02 GMT
And so what?
Political elites often know each other personally. Big deal.
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