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Post by Stephen on Apr 25, 2022 20:02:40 GMT
A location we can talk about French elections.
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Post by Stephen on Apr 25, 2022 20:04:55 GMT
I have heard that the populist and right vote increase significantl.
Le Pen has definitely increased her percentage of the vote 🗳
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Post by Séamus on Apr 27, 2022 10:34:25 GMT
I have heard that the populist and right vote increase significantl.Le Pen has definitely increased her percentage of the vote 🗳 She seems to have received majorities in most of France's overseas départments. Is that a statement equivalent to Commonwealth islands ditching a European monarch as head-of-state, except that,in their case, there is no European monarch as head-of-state?
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Post by cato on Apr 27, 2022 10:41:25 GMT
I have heard that the populist and right vote increase significantl.Le Pen has definitely increased her percentage of the vote 🗳 She seems to have received majorities in most of France's overseas départments. Is that a statement equivalent to Commonwealth islands ditching a European monarch as head-of-state, except that,in their case, there is no European monarch as head-of-state? I was watching some of the voters from the overseas departments (colonies). Many were from racial minorities who hate Macron with a passion but seem to have overlooked the distinct whiff of racial superiority that surrounds Miss La Pen. The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.
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Post by Stephen on Apr 27, 2022 12:56:03 GMT
She seems to have received majorities in most of France's overseas départments. Is that a statement equivalent to Commonwealth islands ditching a European monarch as head-of-state, except that,in their case, there is no European monarch as head-of-state? I was watching some of the voters from the overseas departments (colonies). Many were from racial minorities who hate Macron with a passion but seem to have overlooked the distinct whiff of racial superiority that surrounds Miss La Pen. The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend. What do you mean by this statement "distinct whiff of racial superiority that surrounds Miss La Pen"
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Post by cato on Apr 27, 2022 16:31:47 GMT
I was watching some of the voters from the overseas departments (colonies). Many were from racial minorities who hate Macron with a passion but seem to have overlooked the distinct whiff of racial superiority that surrounds Miss La Pen. The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend. What do you mean by this statement "distinct whiff of racial superiority that surrounds Miss La Pen" In my opinion I would be very surprised if in her heart of hearts, she isn't sympathetic to the views espoused by her father and the original National Front, despite the new more moderate look of her movement.
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Post by Stephen on Apr 27, 2022 16:35:02 GMT
What do you mean by this statement "distinct whiff of racial superiority that surrounds Miss La Pen" In my opinion I would be very surprised if in her heart of hearts, she isn't sympathetic to the views espoused by her father and the original National Front, despite the new more moderate look of her movement. What are the views of her father and the original National Front?
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Post by cato on Apr 27, 2022 16:39:12 GMT
In my opinion I would be very surprised if in her heart of hearts, she isn't sympathetic to the views espoused by her father and the original National Front, despite the new more moderate look of her movement. What are the views of her father and the original National Front? The Internet is a wonderful resource.
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Post by hilary on Apr 27, 2022 21:26:14 GMT
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Post by Séamus on Apr 28, 2022 3:18:20 GMT
I was watching some of the voters from the overseas departments (colonies). Many were from racial minorities who hate Macron with a passion but seem to have overlooked the distinct whiff of racial superiority that surrounds Miss La Pen. The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend. What do you mean by this statement "distinct whiff of racial superiority that surrounds Miss La Pen" It's not impossible that non-European peoples within the French realm can be supportive of tighter immigration from countries outside of this. Unless you're close to a person it can be impossible to see fully whether the whiff,or more than a whiff, is really there on a personal level. Obviously,in today's world,any objection to the world-order status quo can seem welcome. But fanaticism in opposite directions are a danger also.
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Post by Stephen on Apr 28, 2022 8:03:53 GMT
Is this related to the French election?
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Post by hilary on Apr 28, 2022 17:03:10 GMT
Is this related to the French election? Macron is a WEF Young Global Leader. I'm sure most people know about the World Economic Forum and the Great Reset and it's not so much of a conspiracy theory any more but here's a good summary from the internet: "The Young Global Leaders group was initially instructed to identify the major challenges of the 21st century. These included peace, the environment, education, technology and health – areas which these upcoming leaders could exploit politically, economically, and culturally in the new millennium.
Partners for Global Leaders of Tomorrow in 2000 were large global companies such as The Coca Cola Company, Ernst & Young, Volkswagen, and BP Amoco. These could contribute to the agenda by “playing an active role in developing and implementing the concept of the GLT project. The partners can therefore actively participate in the development of GLT programs; representatives of the partner companies as well as their guests are invited to GLT meetings .. ”Since the Global Leaders of Tomorrow was turned into Young Global Leaders 2004, partners such as the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Google, and JPMorganChase (with alumni from the program) have also participated as sponsors.
The ultimate consequence of both public–private partnerships and these target areas is the creation of a largely tyrannical social contract in which the individual has become subordinated to these powerful interests. Noble goals of creating a better world have also been kidnapped. This is especially evident in the context of the partnership between the WEF and the UN and the implementation of the global goals (Agenda 2030) through the application of the technologies of the Fourth Industrial Revolution.
This means that the democratic principles and division of power of the 20th century have largely been completely undermined and instead replaced by a new global class that shapes our common future based on their own interests.
This has led to a de facto privatisation of both national governments and international organisations, where lobbyists are no longer kept in the lobby but have moved into the seat of power, shaping policies directly affecting our lives. What this means has become particularly evident since the pandemic was declared in March 2020. In addition, leading multinational investment management corporations such as BlackRock, led by the World Economic Forum’s own Larry Fink, have constantly moved their positions forward." (https://geopolitics.co/2022/02/22/world-economic-forums-young-global-leaders-revealed/) I don't know much about the Le Pen's politics or whether they talk about the World Economic Forum, but being able to talk about borders, sovereignty, immigration and so on without being labelled racist, would be a good thing, and it suits the one world government agenda when people self-censor. The countries from which people emigrate to here will also want to protect their own sovereignty and their natural resources etc. The WHO International Pandemic Treaty would dictate signatories' responses to future pandemics and Health Minister Stephen Donnelly has already voiced Ireland's support for it. When Senator Sharon Keogan raised it in the Seanad recently, saying it was a piecemeal signing away of our sovereignty, she was rebuked and told that "words matter" by FG Senator Jerry Buttimer. (https://youtu.be/t3lCBpAA6Ts). About the same Treaty, German MEP Christine Anderson asked in the European Parliament: "To what extent will the Commission ensure that the citizen, who has no direct vote in a body such as the WHO, is not bypassed in the decision-making process and that a shift of competence further and further away from the voter does not lead to an increasing ‘de-democratisation’ of our society?"
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Post by cato on Apr 28, 2022 17:47:24 GMT
The WHO International Pandemic Treaty would dictate signatories' responses to future pandemics and Health Minister Stephen Donnelly has already voiced Ireland's support for it. When Senator Sharon Keogan raised it in the Seanad recently, saying it was a piecemeal signing away of our sovereignty, she was rebuked and told that "words matter" by FG Senator Jerry Buttimer.
As an aside Senator Keoghan was subject to quite a nasty bullying by Senator Lynn Ruane recently for objecting to an almost uniform pro surrogacy advocacy session in the Senate. The Sinn Fein Chair seemed incapable of controlling the meeting too. Ireland seems to ignore certain European policies when it suits.
Embracing surrogacy is an exceptional viewpoint in Europe. Russia and Ukraine are the only major European countries permitting this practice.
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Post by hilary on Apr 28, 2022 22:15:26 GMT
As an aside Senator Keoghan was subject to quite a nasty bullying by Senator Lynn Ruane recently for objecting to an almost uniform pro surrogacy advocacy session in the Senate. The Sinn Fein Chair seemed incapable of controlling the meeting too. Ireland seems to ignore certain European policies when it suits. Embracing surrogacy is an exceptional viewpoint in Europe. Russia and Ukraine are the only major European countries permitting this practice. The Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy is like the Constitutional Conventions, or an RTE panel - almost uniform pro-surrogacy and probably designed to bring about a desired outcome. I watched some of the videos, and the sitting today, and wonder how the witnesses/guests are chosen. I think the representative/s from Gay Dads appeared on two days. I seem to remember during the same sex marriage campaign when the subject of same-sex couples wanting to have children was brought up it was..."as if!"! Now it seems that the best interests of the child already born is going to be used to allow surrogacy here. I was looking at some US surrogacy websites today and women can earn $25k-$60k and probably upwards for acting as a surrogate. How is that Committee going to ask whether surrogacy (for gay couples or at all) is in the best interests of a child and society? One of the Committee members has a child through surrogacy herself. Peadar Toibin is listed as a member but I didn't see him on the videos I watched anyway. I wonder whether a representative of the Bioethics Committee of the Catholic Bishops' Conference was invited? I think Senator Keogan was about to divulge some information about witnesses who might have wished to appear before the Committee but the Acting Chair seemed to panic and shut down the meeting. Someone told me that some women (online) have said that they would prefer to pay a surrogate than go through pregnancy - morning sickness etc, and although it seems far fetched now, it's not that remote a possibility. I could imagine the response of some of the Committee members (like Senators Ruane and Funchion) to that suggestion would be "women would never do such a thing - bigot!". Sorry this is well off the French elections but I couldn't work out how to start a thread!
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Post by Stephen on Apr 29, 2022 8:31:01 GMT
As an aside Senator Keoghan was subject to quite a nasty bullying by Senator Lynn Ruane recently for objecting to an almost uniform pro surrogacy advocacy session in the Senate. The Sinn Fein Chair seemed incapable of controlling the meeting too. Ireland seems to ignore certain European policies when it suits. Embracing surrogacy is an exceptional viewpoint in Europe. Russia and Ukraine are the only major European countries permitting this practice. The Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy is like the Constitutional Conventions, or an RTE panel - almost uniform pro-surrogacy and probably designed to bring about a desired outcome. I watched some of the videos, and the sitting today, and wonder how the witnesses/guests are chosen. I think the representative/s from Gay Dads appeared on two days. I seem to remember during the same sex marriage campaign when the subject of same-sex couples wanting to have children was brought up it was..."as if!"! Now it seems that the best interests of the child already born is going to be used to allow surrogacy here. I was looking at some US surrogacy websites today and women can earn $25k-$60k and probably upwards for acting as a surrogate. How is that Committee going to ask whether surrogacy (for gay couples or at all) is in the best interests of a child and society? One of the Committee members has a child through surrogacy herself. Peadar Toibin is listed as a member but I didn't see him on the videos I watched anyway. I wonder whether a representative of the Bioethics Committee of the Catholic Bishops' Conference was invited? I think Senator Keogan was about to divulge some information about witnesses who might have wished to appear before the Committee but the Acting Chair seemed to panic and shut down the meeting. Someone told me that some women (online) have said that they would prefer to pay a surrogate than go through pregnancy - morning sickness etc, and although it seems far fetched now, it's not that remote a possibility. I could imagine the response of some of the Committee members (like Senators Ruane and Funchion) to that suggestion would be "women would never do such a thing - bigot!". Sorry this is well off the French elections but I couldn't work out how to start a thread! The Republic of Irelands politicians are an absolute joke. They are to lazy to think for themselves and are happy to ape other Woke countries
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