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Post by Séamus on Mar 24, 2023 12:28:19 GMT
"... How long will I be here,O Charlie can you tell?"
"Statues of 'older white men' like the Duke of Wellington and Lord Nelson could be erased from public view in Wales. New advice says diversity is 'hardly visible' in current monuments,and they could be 'offensive to people who see them in a different light',such as '(as) aggressors who conquered peoples to expand the British Empire'....The guidelines,which are not mandatory....named Admiral Lord Nelson and the Duke of Wellington as opposed to the abolition of slavery and... Herbert Kitchener as being commemorated in Wales despite being accused of 'crimes against black people'" h.barnett.inter.express
A century after William Butler tried to intervene on Nelson's statue's behalf to Seanad,we see a almost-dystopian scene of Britain itself arguing for his removal. By chance the same paper had an interview quoted an ageing pop vocalist who reflected "there is a paper thin wall between being hailed and being crucified"... it wasn't hard to juxtapose Mr Harket's "bullying is a good preparation for stardom" on the current tear-down rage,whilst acknowledging the differences of times and mentalities between us in the third millennium and Victorian society during the Boer Wars,for example.
Fr Henry Essex Edgeworth, whom we learnt about through Mr Maolsheachlann recently,is a good example of (a largely unmentioned) Irishman who could reach the echelons of the world powers of his day. There's also a sense of this in once-republican Kitchener,perhaps less so in more-Podsnapish Wellington. One little irony of the complete destruction of Nelson's Pillar is the almost-pilgrimage-like marking of any existing Dublin building mentioned by James Joyce. By now his old ladies would have well replaced Horatio,and probably replaced the proposed St Partick too.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Mar 24, 2023 13:20:43 GMT
I'd always regarded the destruction of Nelson's Pillar as a regrettable and stupid but rather comical event. My mind was changed when I read that the bomber, or the person who claims to be the bomber, recently admitted that the bomb was set to a timer and he was in bed when it exploded around two in the morning. Meaning it was complete luck that nobody was passing by and killed when it happened.
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Post by cato on Mar 26, 2023 10:09:32 GMT
I'd always regarded the destruction of Nelson's Pillar as a regrettable and stupid but rather comical event. My mind was changed when I read that the bomber, or the person who claims to be the bomber, recently admitted that the bomb was set to a timer and he was in bed when it exploded around two in the morning. Meaning it was complete luck that nobody was passing by and killed when it happened. Yes I agree particularly when so many people were blown to pieces in accidental bombing blasts due to inadequate warnings being phoned through during the troubles. It was sheer luck that ordinary Dubliners weren't killed. The whole notion of destroying colonial era buildings comes from a place of deep inferiority and resentment. Like it or not Georgian Ireland produced our most beautiful surviving architecture. I can't think of one example of a building being built post 1922 explicitly to out do the British or display a new vibrant alternative. No. The mindset was ... tear down the old . Burn down the big house. And replace it with a shoddy inferior or more usually nothing at all.
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