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Post by Tomas on Feb 12, 2024 15:14:13 GMT
What about the impact of cult influences on man? Came to think of it when checking up a bit more about the mad woman Violet Gibson, the deranged Irish killer-to-be that shot Mussolini in Rome mentioned in another thread here recently. Apparently after that outburst of weirdo she were taken care of to spent the last thirty years of her life locked inside an asylum in northern England. In biographical notes it was stated her mother was a practitioner of Christian Science (not to be read as Christian practising in science) while that particular cult was in the vogue in the early 20th century. That one even made G.K. Chesterton concerned enough to once read the entire manifesto, quite remarkably named: Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures. The open minded Chesterton commented on it in a short essay but he didn´t make much of it, he did not find it comprehensible hardly. Are theirs, or similar groups, influences nothing to watch out for? Are their impact nothing to care about at all? Too few people hurt to be a problem for others outside the cult? Incidentally in my youth I came across some of these cultists, much later on but basically the same types I guess. They may appear harmless but may feed a rather vicious way of interpret life. Kindness on the outside but with some tint of insanity beyond that surface. Confusing way of teachings in the cult stuff they read, heavy peer pressure and isolation and many other nastier things too. Founder Mary Baker Eddy had some strange personality that attracted many obscure followers. Least one of her approved biographers was first negative but then turned over into the positive approach. Cult feelings tending to be like our Catholic infights in that respect, some leaders being easier to avoid or "show tolerance" than to refute?
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Post by Séamus on Feb 15, 2024 3:20:43 GMT
What about the impact of cult influences on man? Came to think of it when checking up a bit more about the mad woman Violet Gibson, the deranged Irish killer-to-be that shot Mussolini in Rome mentioned in another thread here recently. Apparently after that outburst of weirdo she were taken care of to spent the last thirty years of her life locked inside an asylum in northern England. In biographical notes it was stated her mother was a practitioner of Christian Science (not to be read as Christian practising in science) while that particular cult was in the vogue in the early 20th century. That one even made G.K. Chesterton concerned enough to once read the entire manifesto, quite remarkably named: Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures. The open minded Chesterton commented on it in a short essay but he didn´t make much of it, he did not find it comprehensible hardly. Are theirs, or similar groups, influences nothing to watch out for? Are their impact nothing to care about at all? Too few people hurt to be a problem for others outside the cult? Incidentally in my youth I came across some of these cultists, much later on but basically the same types I guess. They may appear harmless but may feed a rather vicious way of interpret life. Kindness on the outside but with some tint of insanity beyond that surface. Confusing way of teachings in the cult stuff they read, heavy peer pressure and isolation and many other nastier things too. Founder Mary Baker Eddy had some strange personality that attracted many obscure followers. Least one of her approved biographers was first negative but then turned over into the positive approach. Cult feelings tending to be like our Catholic infights in that respect, some leaders being easier to avoid or "show tolerance" than to refute? Apart from the recent case in Kenya which saw the starvation of many of a particular group's members,I haven't noticed as much of this type of thing in the news as in times past. Scientologists are less of a news story than they had been. Even Opus Dei (not saying it's a cult myself,but that's how people often see groups like that in the church) has ceased to bother the secular world under Francis' reign. I'm sure it's all still happening and going by one of Chesterton's Father Brown tales, new age-type cults were a concern in the art Deco era also. I'd wonder, however, how social media effects the physical membership of extreme groups? Rather than joining communes, as people did 1960s-90s,is it far easier to take on an ideology virtually?
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Post by Séamus on Feb 16, 2024 5:37:53 GMT
"A self-professed psychic tried to 'hold the calm and the beauty' as a man collapsed before dying after taking poison and hallucinogens at a spiritual health retreat. Jarrad Antonovich died of a perforated oesophagus after consuming the plant-based psychedelic ayahuasca and frog-based poison kambo at the Dreaming Arts Festival at Arcoora health retreat in northern NSW on October 16, 2021. As an inquest into his death resumed today, psychic reader and 'body worker' Dominique Vollaers said she was seated when she turned around to see the 46-year-old falling to the ground during the ritual." (Australia's 9 network)
Another reason that we- or I- possibly hear less about cults, per se, than in my earlier years is the normalisation of the wacky practises and beliefs that were weird in society, even in the much-maligned '60s and 70s. To think that people once laughed at the Addams Family for having totem poles in the lounge, playing with gothic dolls, thinking by standing on their heads and generally turning everything that has been considered sane in society upsidedown.
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Post by Tomas on Feb 16, 2024 9:38:58 GMT
Another reason that we- or I- possibly hear less about cults, per se, than in my earlier years is the normalisation of the wacky practises and beliefs that were weird in society, even in the much-maligned '60s and 70s. Yes most accurate, that is the most prominent analysis, when globalist society "transformed" with incorporated hideous whacky practises like transgender mutilation and satanism labeled as normal revolutionaries most of the standards fell down. It goes close to the biblical notion of taking down fences. Leftists, self-professed radicals but more often than not only following bad leaders, goes along in masses and by such "support" it gets stuck in the mainstream. It is no small matter, but treated by many secular godless as simple human modern cultural phenomena. They do not understand religion, even in basic.
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