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Post by cato on Mar 22, 2024 14:06:47 GMT
I have noticed my views are becoming more right wing without , so far, tipping into alternative far right territory.
I am now openly "Ireland for the Irish" in public. I don't oppose immigration but we should pick and choose to benefit our society. We need to enforce our existing laws and deport chancers and anyone without documentation.
I think welfare needs major reform. We are presiding over a growing welfare state while we have surplus jobs with no one willing to take them up.
Modern education has declined objectively and our universities churn out extremist anti Western culture warriors and depressed nihilist.
On the other hand we have an obscene ammount of property wealth in the hands of a section of the population with another large chunk screwed by high rents and unable to buy their own home or start families. Our housing model is in major crisis. Conservatives firmly believe property ownership should be a wide as possible.
On a more classically liberal angle I worry about our democracy when the state engage relentlessly in progressive social engineering regardless of the views of the electorate. We see this with gender surgery for minors , open borders and hate speech legislation. Interestingly our two English speaking neighbours are having the same problems on a bigger scale. The failure of the UK Tories to stop the boats despite an 80 seat parliamentary majority is astounding.
I am also much less keen on Irish unity largely because of Sinn Fein and their neo Marxist anti Irish working class agenda. In the long run Irish unity might help create a strong right wing constitutional party to oppose the former Provo agenda.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Mar 22, 2024 22:02:17 GMT
With regard to immigration, I feel a tension between what the Church tells me and my patriotism.
Surely there is a critical mass beyond which a nation ceases to be the same nation.
If we had some kind of "guest worker" arrangement it would be different, but we seem to have bought into a "lowest coming denominator" definition of nationality.
All of the immigrants I know are lovely. I'm married to an immigrant. It has nothing to do with liking or not liking them. I just want my people to survive as a people.
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Post by Tomas on Mar 25, 2024 9:10:02 GMT
Same treats going around the Western now Globalist states. Living in Sweden has given me another perspective. Here it is imbued since many decades that community shifts marked by liberal and/or socialist social engineering is taken for granted. Opposition and real conservative sea change would demand much more in terms of traditional learning at the end of the overwhelming zeitgeist unisex line. Having people depressed like slaves serves no good in any society, not even when held up from the overlord prosperous privilege seats (if they care for fellow humans at all which may vary?).
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Post by eala on Mar 29, 2024 10:37:23 GMT
I have noticed my views are becoming more right wing without , so far, tipping into alternative far right territory. I am now openly "Ireland for the Irish" in public. I don't oppose immigration but we should pick and choose to benefit our society. We need to enforce our existing laws and deport chancers and anyone without documentation. I think welfare needs major reform. We are presiding over a growing welfare state while we have surplus jobs with no one willing to take them up. Modern education has declined objectively and our universities churn out extremist anti Western culture warriors and depressed nihilist. On the other hand we have an obscene ammount of property wealth in the hands of a section of the population with another large chunk screwed by high rents and unable to buy their own home or start families. Our housing model is in major crisis. Conservatives firmly believe property ownership should be a wide as possible. On a more classically liberal angle I worry about our democracy when the state engage relentlessly in progressive social engineering regardless of the views of the electorate. We see this with gender surgery for minors , open borders and hate speech legislation. Interestingly our two English speaking neighbours are having the same problems on a bigger scale. The failure of the UK Tories to stop the boats despite an 80 seat parliamentary majority is astounding. I am also much less keen on Irish unity largely because of Sinn Fein and their neo Marxist anti Irish working class agenda. In the long run Irish unity might help create a strong right wing constitutional party to oppose the former Provo agenda. All reasonable views. The political and media culture has been shifting left which means views like yours and mine are increasingly to the right of them. Ireland for the Irish was a reasonable, even self-evident position when I was a child and teenager, now in middle age it's right wing. |
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Post by assisi on Mar 30, 2024 14:40:09 GMT
I have noticed my views are becoming more right wing without , so far, tipping into alternative far right territory. I am now openly "Ireland for the Irish" in public. I don't oppose immigration but we should pick and choose to benefit our society. We need to enforce our existing laws and deport chancers and anyone without documentation. I think welfare needs major reform. We are presiding over a growing welfare state while we have surplus jobs with no one willing to take them up. Modern education has declined objectively and our universities churn out extremist anti Western culture warriors and depressed nihilist. On the other hand we have an obscene ammount of property wealth in the hands of a section of the population with another large chunk screwed by high rents and unable to buy their own home or start families. Our housing model is in major crisis. Conservatives firmly believe property ownership should be a wide as possible. On a more classically liberal angle I worry about our democracy when the state engage relentlessly in progressive social engineering regardless of the views of the electorate. We see this with gender surgery for minors , open borders and hate speech legislation. Interestingly our two English speaking neighbours are having the same problems on a bigger scale. The failure of the UK Tories to stop the boats despite an 80 seat parliamentary majority is astounding. I am also much less keen on Irish unity largely because of Sinn Fein and their neo Marxist anti Irish working class agenda. In the long run Irish unity might help create a strong right wing constitutional party to oppose the former Provo agenda. All this has been planned and thought out. Regarding immigration, globalists have deliberately flooded Western nations in order to divide and demoralise the people. The globalists are in a win-win situation. They flood the nations with unvetted foreigners and, when the native population react to this madness the globalist call them racists and bigots and portray themselves, the globalists, as kind, generous and progressive The native population, Christian or ex-Christian in their mindset, are emotionally compromised as they hate the idea of being unkind to strangers but can see that the results of this strategy will end in disaster and possibly the ruination of their country. We do not have to co-operate with a migration policy that has evil machiavellian origins, which I believe this has. To a certain extent the migrants themselves are not to blame fully as they are tools of the elites. But they do know that they are illegal, and for most they are in search of the best social welfare destination they can find. Also some believe that they are entitled to be looked after and have little or no care for the country or people they are going to. The government and globalist bodies actually don't mind that violence ensues because that gives them a reason to introduce ridiculous hate laws to imprison dissenters and to take semi-military control over the country....... Many of the Irish people have helped contribute, in their ignorance, to this situation. Voting for gay marriage and abortion they have shown themselves highly amenable to the globalist experiment and it carries on at a greater pace. One even thinks back to the Lisbon Treaty vote when the Irish were asked to vote again to provide the 'correct' result. The writing was on the wall. |
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Post by cato on Mar 30, 2024 20:19:53 GMT
[quote [/quote]All this has been planned and thought out. Regarding immigration, globalists have deliberately flooded Western nations in order to divide and demoralise the people. The globalists are in a win-win situation. They flood the nations with unvetted foreigners and, when the native population react to this madness the globalist call them racists and bigots and portray themselves, the globalists, as kind, generous and progressive
The native population, Christian or ex-Christian in their mindset, are emotionally compromised as they hate the idea of being unkind to strangers but can see that the results of this strategy will end in disaster and possibly the ruination of their country.
We do not have to co-operate with a migration policy that has evil machiavellian origins, which I believe this has. To a certain extent the migrants themselves are not to blame fully as they are tools of the elites. But they do know that they are illegal, and for most they are in search of the best social welfare destination they can find. Also some believe that they are entitled to be looked after and have little or no care for the country or people they are going to.
The government and globalist bodies actually don't mind that violence ensues because that gives them a reason to introduce ridiculous hate laws to imprison dissenters and to take semi-military control over the country.......
Many of the Irish people have helped contribute, in their ignorance, to this situation. Voting for gay marriage and abortion they have shown themselves highly amenable to the globalist experiment and it carries on at a greater pace. One even thinks back to the Lisbon Treaty vote when the Irish were asked to vote again to provide the 'correct' result. The writing was on the wall.
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I have been reading Renaud Camus in translation recently, hes the French author who popularised the Great Replacement theory. Interestingly he dismisses talk about conspiracy and evil agendas. He says the most important thing to establish is that it is an objective FACT. As I write 22% of our population in Ireland is foreign born. This has never been the subject of an open debate.
Who benefits from open borders and free movement? It's not a hidden conspiracy. Its like pride flags . They hide a huge shift in all our lives in Broad daylight.
The EU is openly pro mass migration from outside and within the EU. 350 Million odd EU citizens and 70 million Brits have a right to come here in law. There is no current legal limit for everyone else. We need to reform EU law. Its bad for small Nations if they wish to maintain a distinct identity and a coherent stable just society.
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Post by eala on May 2, 2024 19:34:48 GMT
I have noticed my views are becoming more right wing without , so far, tipping into alternative far right territory. I am now openly "Ireland for the Irish" in public. I don't oppose immigration but we should pick and choose to benefit our society. We need to enforce our existing laws and deport chancers and anyone without documentation. I think welfare needs major reform. We are presiding over a growing welfare state while we have surplus jobs with no one willing to take them up. Modern education has declined objectively and our universities churn out extremist anti Western culture warriors and depressed nihilist. On the other hand we have an obscene ammount of property wealth in the hands of a section of the population with another large chunk screwed by high rents and unable to buy their own home or start families. Our housing model is in major crisis. Conservatives firmly believe property ownership should be a wide as possible. On a more classically liberal angle I worry about our democracy when the state engage relentlessly in progressive social engineering regardless of the views of the electorate. We see this with gender surgery for minors , open borders and hate speech legislation. Interestingly our two English speaking neighbours are having the same problems on a bigger scale. The failure of the UK Tories to stop the boats despite an 80 seat parliamentary majority is astounding. I am also much less keen on Irish unity largely because of Sinn Fein and their neo Marxist anti Irish working class agenda. In the long run Irish unity might help create a strong right wing constitutional party to oppose the former Provo agenda. All this has been planned and thought out. Regarding immigration, globalists have deliberately flooded Western nations in order to divide and demoralise the people. The globalists are in a win-win situation. They flood the nations with unvetted foreigners and, when the native population react to this madness the globalist call them racists and bigots and portray themselves, the globalists, as kind, generous and progressive The native population, Christian or ex-Christian in their mindset, are emotionally compromised as they hate the idea of being unkind to strangers but can see that the results of this strategy will end in disaster and possibly the ruination of their country. We do not have to co-operate with a migration policy that has evil machiavellian origins, which I believe this has. To a certain extent the migrants themselves are not to blame fully as they are tools of the elites. But they do know that they are illegal, and for most they are in search of the best social welfare destination they can find. Also some believe that they are entitled to be looked after and have little or no care for the country or people they are going to. The government and globalist bodies actually don't mind that violence ensues because that gives them a reason to introduce ridiculous hate laws to imprison dissenters and to take semi-military control over the country....... Many of the Irish people have helped contribute, in their ignorance, to this situation. Voting for gay marriage and abortion they have shown themselves highly amenable to the globalist experiment and it carries on at a greater pace. One even thinks back to the Lisbon Treaty vote when the Irish were asked to vote again to provide the 'correct' result. The writing was on the wall. I'm also coming to the conclusion that it's planned to break down cohesion of distinct historical nations. Any good sources you'd suggest on this? |
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