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Post by cato on Jul 4, 2018 19:20:45 GMT
Minorities need free speech to survive. The alternative is to surrender and join the establishment consensus. Faithful christians are now in a vulnerable minority and demands are rising we be excluded and marginalised.
Religious freedom is like free speech. In a world where Christendom once held sway these were seen as threats by church and state. In a post christian world they are vital if believers want any place in public life. Even if only on pragmatic grounds christians should back free speech. It will give us the freedom to preach the gospel as we have commanded to do by Christ.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 4, 2018 19:37:05 GMT
Minorities need free speech to survive. The alternative is to surrender and join the establishment consensus. Faithful christians are now in a vulnerable minority and demands are rising we be excluded and marginalised. Religious freedom is like free speech. In a world where Christendom once held sway these were seen as threats by church and state. In a post christian world they are vital if believers want any place in public life. Even if only on pragmatic grounds christians should back free speech. It will give us the freedom to preach the gospel as we have commanded to do by Christ. There's a part of me that wants to be really diehard and say: "Go ahead and persecute us, gag us, whatever. We're not asking for a place at your table. We're demanding you bow the knee to Christ the King, Lord of the Universe." That's rather quixotic though-- I think your view is more pragmatic, and the one I share when I calm down! |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 4, 2018 19:41:26 GMT
This is in the politics sub-forum and we are taking a Catholic viewpoint for granted! What will it take to enforce laïcité on this forum?  |
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Post by cato on Jul 4, 2018 20:31:41 GMT
Minorities need free speech to survive. The alternative is to surrender and join the establishment consensus. Faithful christians are now in a vulnerable minority and demands are rising we be excluded and marginalised. Religious freedom is like free speech. In a world where Christendom once held sway these were seen as threats by church and state. In a post christian world they are vital if believers want any place in public life. Even if only on pragmatic grounds christians should back free speech. It will give us the freedom to preach the gospel as we have commanded to do by Christ. There's a part of me that wants to be really diehard and say: "Go ahead and persecute us, gag us, whatever. We're not asking for a place at your table. We're demanding you bow the knee to Christ the King, Lord of the Universe." That's rather quixotic though-- I think your view is more pragmatic, and the one I share when I calm down! Perhaps, and I hope and pray it will not come to pass , that we will face real physical suffering for the faith just like our ancestors and countless millions have endured. It may not be too far off. I fear we will eventually be silenced but that is no reason to cease reminding liberals of their intolerant hypocrisy. Defending free speech is necessary to stave off persecution. Very few of us have the stuff of martyrs. Even St Thomas More did all he could to avoid death if he could live without betraying our lord. I suspect the Church will wake up to the peril at the very last moments of freedom vanishing. I doubt we will have many liberal allies to protest our demise from the public space. |
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