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Post by Maolsheachlann on Oct 24, 2017 7:19:58 GMT
I'm assuming I will see you all tonight in Dublin Airport as this national hero returns to his dear native land?
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Post by kj on Oct 24, 2017 10:48:02 GMT
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Oct 24, 2017 11:59:35 GMT
The New Ireland in all its glory!! |
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Post by cato on Oct 24, 2017 15:14:59 GMT
On the RTE news site he denounces all those who questioned his presence at the Moslem Brotherhood rally in Cairo as "haters". Good to know he is a fully fledged Irish Snowflake in his automatic usage of the H word.
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Post by Séamus on Oct 26, 2017 12:45:46 GMT
The New Ireland in all its glory!! Not just Ireland either. Devout Muslims, radical or not, modernist politicians, who sprang from nominally-Christian societies and Amnesty International, in a separate photo(not a big number of them, mind you and GRANTED it is more in the line of the work they were actually founded to do). Why do I think of the vision of Nebuchadnezzar in DANIEL? Part iron, part earthenware. If this is a micro-view of modern society it will take more than optimism to hold it all together. |
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Post by MourningIreland on Oct 26, 2017 17:43:20 GMT
On the RTE news site he denounces all those who questioned his presence at the Moslem Brotherhood rally in Cairo as "haters". Good to know he is a fully fledged Irish Snowflake in his automatic usage of the H word. This is an Alinsky tactic of ridiculing and isolating the opposition instead of addressing the argument. It's how marriage equality was won. I don't however think it will be as effective with the "Repeal the Eighth" campaign. People are getting sick of Leftist bullying. Zappone is on a collision course with herself in two cases: Islam & LGBT, and her role as "ministry for children" and her pro-abortion agenda. I am seeing more and more critical comments about her as the mask comes off: |
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Post by Young Ireland on Oct 26, 2017 17:57:28 GMT
On the RTE news site he denounces all those who questioned his presence at the Moslem Brotherhood rally in Cairo as "haters". Good to know he is a fully fledged Irish Snowflake in his automatic usage of the H word. This is an Alinsky tactic of ridiculing and isolating the opposition instead of addressing the argument. It's how marriage equality was won. I don't however think it will be as effective with the "Repeal the Eighth" campaign. People are getting sick of Leftist bullying. Zappone is on a collision course with herself in two cases: Islam & LGBT, and her role as "ministry for children" and her pro-abortion agenda. I am seeing more and more critical comments about her as the mask comes off: I don't think Alinsky's influence is limited solely to the left. Much of the populist right seems influenced by him as well. Look at Steve Bannon's comparison of himself to Satan, which is remarkably similar to Alinsky's praise of him. |
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Post by MourningIreland on Oct 26, 2017 18:06:35 GMT
This is an Alinsky tactic of ridiculing and isolating the opposition instead of addressing the argument. It's how marriage equality was won. I don't however think it will be as effective with the "Repeal the Eighth" campaign. People are getting sick of Leftist bullying. Zappone is on a collision course with herself in two cases: Islam & LGBT, and her role as "ministry for children" and her pro-abortion agenda. I am seeing more and more critical comments about her as the mask comes off: I don't think Alinsky's influence is limited solely to the left. Much of the populist right seems influenced by him as well. Look at Steve Bannon's comparison of himself to Satan, which is remarkably similar to Alinsky's praise of him. I think you are completely misreading that Bannon quote. He is talking about the media's perception of him, and how wrong they are: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3951024/That-s-power-Trump-whisperer-economic-nationalist-Steve-Bannon-revels-liberals-media-calling-Darth-Vader-Satan-saying-no-f-ing-idea-s-going-on.htmlWith respect to Alinsky tactics, some on the populist Right are going on the offense and using them against the Left in order to expose the Left's hypocrisy. This is actually an effective way of neutralizing Alinsky tactics, given the Left's commitment to "equality." Dinesh D'Souza is very good at it in my opinion. I also see elements of the populist Right that I don't like (such as much of the Alt-right) who use these tactics in an unethical way, but this reflects on them and not on the entire populist right. |
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Post by Young Ireland on Oct 26, 2017 18:13:38 GMT
I don't think Alinsky's influence is limited solely to the left. Much of the populist right seems influenced by him as well. Look at Steve Bannon's comparison of himself to Satan, which is remarkably similar to Alinsky's praise of him. I think you are completely misreading that Bannon quote. He is talking about the media's perception of him, and how wrong they are: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3951024/That-s-power-Trump-whisperer-economic-nationalist-Steve-Bannon-revels-liberals-media-calling-Darth-Vader-Satan-saying-no-f-ing-idea-s-going-on.htmlWith respect to Alinsky tactics, some on the populist Right are going on the offense and using them against the Left in order to expose the Left's hypocrisy. This is actually an effective way of neutralizing Alinsky tactics, given the Left's commitment to "equality." Dinesh D'Souza is very good at it in my opinion. I also see elements of the populist Right that I don't like (such as much of the Alt-right) who use these tactics in an unethical way, but this reflects on them and not on the entire populist right. OK. Why did he say that "darkness is good" then? Also, I don't think it usually ends well when one fights one wrong with another wrong. |
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Post by MourningIreland on Oct 26, 2017 18:25:28 GMT
OK. Why did he say that "darkness is good" then? Also, I don't think it usually ends well when one fights one wrong with another wrong. Here is the quote: 'Darkness is good: Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power,' Bannon told the Hollywood Reporter in a new profile. 'It only helps us when [the media and liberals] get it wrong. When they're blind of who we are and what we're doing.'
It's awkwardly stated, but he is saying that the media's erroneous perception of him as evil is powerful because it blinds them to the truth. With that said, I am a little wary of Bannon's praise of Dugin and of the "traditionalist school." I was researching this recently and what I have found so far suggests that he embraces what is valuable in the traditionalist school and rejects what is false and dangerous. If this proves to be correct I have very little concern in this regard. At any rate it's on my radar and I keep it in mind as I watch Bannon's speeches and interviews. |
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Post by Young Ireland on Oct 26, 2017 18:37:16 GMT
OK. Why did he say that "darkness is good" then? Also, I don't think it usually ends well when one fights one wrong with another wrong. Here is the quote: 'Darkness is good: Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power,' Bannon told the Hollywood Reporter in a new profile. 'It only helps us when [the media and liberals] get it wrong. When they're blind of who we are and what we're doing.'
It's awkwardly stated, but he is saying that the media's erroneous perception of him as evil is powerful because it blinds them to the truth. With that said, I am a little wary of Bannon's praise of Dugin and of the "traditionalist school." I was researching this recently and what I have found so far suggests that he embraces what is valuable in the traditionalist school and rejects what is false and dangerous. If this proves to be correct I have very little concern in this regard. At any rate it's on my radar and I keep it in mind as I watch Bannon's speeches and interviews. I agree with what you have said there, and Bannon's comments could be read in that light. I would however be exceedingly wary when somebody speaks positively of the Devil, whether seriously or not. As for the "traditionalists", even if there is something in what they say, I get the impression that the movement's links to paganism and the occult mean that even qualified praise of them is simply too dangerous. Nevertheless, I am pleased to see you part ways with Bannon on this. |
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Post by MourningIreland on Oct 26, 2017 21:32:03 GMT
Here is the quote: 'Darkness is good: Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power,' Bannon told the Hollywood Reporter in a new profile. 'It only helps us when [the media and liberals] get it wrong. When they're blind of who we are and what we're doing.'
It's awkwardly stated, but he is saying that the media's erroneous perception of him as evil is powerful because it blinds them to the truth. With that said, I am a little wary of Bannon's praise of Dugin and of the "traditionalist school." I was researching this recently and what I have found so far suggests that he embraces what is valuable in the traditionalist school and rejects what is false and dangerous. If this proves to be correct I have very little concern in this regard. At any rate it's on my radar and I keep it in mind as I watch Bannon's speeches and interviews. I agree with what you have said there, and Bannon's comments could be read in that light. I would however be exceedingly wary when somebody speaks positively of the Devil, whether seriously or not. As for the "traditionalists", even if there is something in what they say, I get the impression that the movement's links to paganism and the occult mean that even qualified praise of them is simply too dangerous. Nevertheless, I am pleased to see you part ways with Bannon on this. I can't disagree with any of your points. I hope it was just an ill-advised slip of the tongue on Bannon's part. Trump and Bannon both have some rough edges but I think they are fundamentally good men, great ones even. This doesn't mean, however, that we throw discernment out the window. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Nov 2, 2017 8:46:04 GMT
Some of my Facebook friends are getting upset that Halawa has been invited on the Late Late Show. I don't see a problem with this myself. He has a human interest story which seems highly relevant to a talk show like the Late Late. It might even be an opportunity for him to answer sone tough questions, but that's probably hoping for too much.
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Post by cato on Nov 3, 2017 6:33:06 GMT
Some of my Facebook friends are getting upset that Halawa has been invited on the Late Late Show. I don't see a problem with this myself. He has a human interest story which seems highly relevant to a talk show like the Late Late. It might even be an opportunity for him to answer sone tough questions, but that's probably hoping for too much. I normally never watch the clapped out charade known as the Late Late Show but curiousity will get the better of me of me on this occasion. |
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Post by cato on Nov 4, 2017 13:02:36 GMT
Ibrahim got a pretty soft interview. He claimed if he was a moslem brotherhood supporter he would have gone to Egypt when he was 15 for the revolution (??) He also claims that as a 17 year old he didn't understand their ideology or any organisation's except "for human rights organisations"!!! I wonder has the abortion zealot and children's rights minister Mz Zappone been talking to him ?
He denies supporting the Moslem brotherhood but seems to be adopting the role of a human rights "defender" ie an apologist for extremism but not an actual supporter or member. The sight of his heavily veiled female family members in tow makes me feel uneasy.But I guess it's orientalist islamophobic racism on my part folks. If I offend anyone then .... yaddy yaddy ya.
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