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Post by ClassicalRepublican on Sept 1, 2017 11:29:32 GMT
As a Catholic, you would be committing a mortal sin. Typical Irish Republican! Classical Republican is not a Catholic, I believe. By way of nuance, I had my daughter baptised recently. :-)
I'm Irish and a republican, but I'm certainly not an "Irish Republican"!!!
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Post by ClassicalRepublican on Sept 1, 2017 11:34:52 GMT
This should be the new flag - the national emblem on the national colour.
I could get behind that, maybe on a Green field. I think The royal flag would have the blue field. The harp on a green field was used by Irish regiments in continental Catholic armies I believe.
The royal arms of the UK have the winged harp on azure. The current national emblem is a harp with the design of the Trinity College harp.
Azure is the national colour. It was the symbol of sovereignty in Gaelic Ireland.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 1, 2017 11:35:49 GMT
Classical Republican is not a Catholic, I believe. By way of nuance, I had my daughter baptised recently. :-) I'm glad you're here-- I don't want this to be a Catholics-only forum!
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Post by Stephen on Sept 1, 2017 11:36:17 GMT
Like most Republicans
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 1, 2017 11:59:43 GMT
[/p] I'm Irish and a republican, but I'm certainly not an "Irish Republican"!!!
[/quote] Important distinction!!
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Post by cato on Sept 1, 2017 12:30:53 GMT
would it mean a change of flag and anthem also? View Attachment
This should be the new flag - the national emblem on the national colour.
That flag has already been taken I think. Isn't it the presidential Arms? Michael D will be very upset if a group of monarchists steal his flag. It may come under the treason laws. You have been warned.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 1, 2017 13:07:58 GMT
Can you imagine anything worse than an enraged Marxist leprechaun coming after you?
It sounds like a horror movie.
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Post by cato on Sept 1, 2017 13:47:16 GMT
Beware of the risen red little people from the west defending their presidential banner!
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Post by servantofthechief on Sept 1, 2017 20:39:10 GMT
This should be the new flag - the national emblem on the national colour.
I could get behind that, maybe on a Green field. I think The royal flag would have the blue field. This would be an obvious choice I would think, blue having always been the royal colour, the Virgin Mary and St. Patrick to an extent. Funny enough I learned that the species of plants that shamrocks belong to are actually supposed to be blue in colour but whatever variants we have here in Ireland are all green. Also i have heard, but cannot confirm, but the national symbol of the Harp must always be facing left because the Guinness company had trademarked the Harp facing right as a symbol. Has anyone else heard of this?
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Post by Séamus on Sept 2, 2017 6:48:39 GMT
I have sometimes wondered if it would be possible to have an unofficial monarch. Presumably there is no law against it. In time, it might become official. I'm not fanatically for or against monarchies or aristocracy myself. However, it must be said, there are in Europe examples of royalty existing in constitutional republics, being recognised without being recognised. A friend who studied in Rome for a while was introduced (by pro-Australian-republic cardinal Pell believe it or not) to two couples who are generally accepted as the heads of dynasties. One was Borgia -I suppose they date back to Pope Alexander?- I think,from memory the other was Borghese. Whatever the government thinks, everyone addresses them as Prince/Princess. They probably receive no government funds-they don't seem to need any. They were apparently very generous to Pell when he was raising funds for Domus Australis. One Prince is a permanent deacon and was head of finance in one of the small dioceses bordering Rome diocese itself. I'm not sure whether being a married deacon is an unusual privilege in Italy. I could mention an hilarious anecdote about my friend concerning them but this wouldn't be the place. Another example of extant German aristocracy ( my friend didn't meet them but they were living in Rome at the time) can be found in the book IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF JOSEPH RATZINGER by Alessandra Borghese (not related to the family I mentioned); the heir was Albert vonThurn und Taxis, who wanted to study theology for some reason. His mother, Gloria, was apparently a traditional-Mass supporter, perhaps still is.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 2, 2017 10:24:12 GMT
I have sometimes wondered if it would be possible to have an unofficial monarch. Presumably there is no law against it. In time, it might become official. I'm not fanatically for or against monarchies or aristocracy myself. However, it must be said, there are in Europe examples of royalty existing in constitutional republics, being recognised without being recognised. A friend who studied in Rome for a while was introduced (by pro-Australian-republic cardinal Pell believe it or not) to two couples who are generally accepted as the heads of dynasties. One was Borgia -I suppose they date back to Pope Alexander?- I think,from memory the other was Borghese. Whatever the government thinks, everyone addresses them as Prince/Princess. They probably receive no government funds-they don't seem to need any. They were apparently very generous to Pell when he was raising funds for Domus Australis. One Prince is a permanent deacon and was head of finance in one of the small dioceses bordering Rome diocese itself. I'm not sure whether being a married deacon is an unusual privilege in Italy. I could mention an hilarious anecdote about my friend concerning them but this wouldn't be the place. Another example of extant German aristocracy ( my friend didn't meet them but they were living in Rome at the time) can be found in the book IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF JOSEPH RATZINGER by Alessandra Borghese (not related to the family I mentioned); the heir was Albert vonThurn und Taxis, who wanted to study theology for some reason. His mother, Gloria, was apparently a traditional-Mass supporter, perhaps still is. I don't like to make a fuss about it, but I am the Earl of Fingal.
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Post by Antaine on Sept 2, 2017 14:22:12 GMT
As far as I'm concerned, nobody has a claim to the throne in Ireland. Your name or blood doesn't really mean anything if you're family have been sitting around for a couple of years doing nothing of importance in that regard. The one who becomes High King of Ireland is the one who can raise up an army, throw off the yoke of the EU, and make Ireland his own. (Or her own?) [!]
Sounds like a good plan to me. Anyone want to volunteer to be our next monarch?
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Post by Antaine on Sept 2, 2017 14:22:55 GMT
"you're family" ....
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Post by cato on Sept 2, 2017 15:58:35 GMT
The Earl of Fingal would make an excellent King and he would restore full sovereignity and defeat the forces of the EU without a doubt. Maolsheachlann is a popular Irish Kingly name too.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 2, 2017 17:31:53 GMT
As far as I'm concerned, nobody has a claim to the throne in Ireland. Your name or blood doesn't really mean anything if you're family have been sitting around for a couple of years doing nothing of importance in that regard. The one who becomes High King of Ireland is the one who can raise up an army, throw off the yoke of the EU, and make Ireland his own. (Or her own?) [!] Sounds like a good plan to me. Anyone want to volunteer to be our next monarch? Reminds me of Alexander the Great's reputed words when he was asked who should inherit his empire: "The strongest".
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