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Post by Maolsheachlann on Feb 7, 2018 13:30:26 GMT
What do you think of the Republic of Ireland's electoral system, proportional representation with the single transferable vote?
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Post by cato on Feb 8, 2018 18:43:10 GMT
Any system that led to minister Zappone getting elected ,on a first preference vote of around 7%, after 16 counts is crazy. Ok I am totally biased her but this American woman who 93% did not give a first preference to ,then is appointed a minister of children with the most radical agenda ever of any politician in Ireland. Her poisonous agenda is based in her case on a very small original vote.
The votes of prolife parties and most recently Renua might benefit from having some TDs elected through a national list system in addition to individual constituencies .Renua got a 2.2% vote nationally I think in the last election but no seats. It will get 250,000 euros to fight the next election despite having only one councillor.
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Post by Séamus on Feb 9, 2018 3:39:17 GMT
Any system that led to minister Zappone getting elected ,on a first preference vote of around 7%, after 16 counts is crazy. Ok I am totally biased her but this American woman who 93% did not give a first preference to ,then is appointed a minister of children with the most radical agenda ever of any politician in Ireland. Her poisonous agenda is based in her case on a very small original vote. The votes of prolife parties and most recently Renua might benefit from having some TDs elected through a national list system in addition to individual constituencies .Renua got a 2.2% vote nationally I think in the last election but no seats. It will get 250,000 euros to fight the next election despite having only one councillor. The election of a teachta dála in Ireland and of a senator in Australia, while not similar, is not entirely dissimilar either. So many silly parties were getting elected to the Aus.senate that the system was changed in the last election so that your ' vote can stop '... For want of a better way to put it. You can go behind the party and or candidates you wish without your preferences going any further. Some small parties still got senators elected, but these at least had some significant following, like Pauline Hanson's group, unlike the Sports Party and Motorist Enthusiast Party which had had senators elected in the previous senate without any realistic vote. And many will still vote ' above the line' I.e. The old way |
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Post by cato on Mar 7, 2018 14:18:33 GMT
According to the Spanish think tank - The Foundation for the Advancement of Liberty in 2018 Ireland came out on top of 198 states for the most perfectly proportional system . We were followed by Iceland Switzerland , Finland , Australia , Denmark Portugal and the Dominican Republic.
Brunei had the worst record with no elections since 1960s. ( Source Cormac Lucey Sunday Times)
The system on paper is fair. The overwhelming leftist world view and bias of the media, academic circles , arts community and NGOs and its' influence on public opinion is quite another matter.
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