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Post by cato on Jul 14, 2018 16:25:31 GMT
It is perhaps appropriate on Bastille day to reflect briefly on Ireland's quiet Revolution to date.
Born again abortionista Micheal Martin TD has said he is determined to prevent any use of delaying tactics by pro life TDs and will support government attempts to gullotine any overly long debates. If that reference didn't echo of 1789 then his grim determination to rush through what he called "the will of the people" would have made Robespierre nod in approval. Martin also said he didn't believe their would be as much parliamentary opposition to the new abortion laws as there was to the recent drink driving laws! We shall see. It would be tragic if he is correct .
Our second born again abortionista Dr Leo Varadkar TD and Taoiseach has denounced the constitution's use of the term family as" sexist and anachronistic". Non nuclear families are excluded and traumatised by this oppression and need to set free. He has also promised to redefine the family in 2019. I missed that promise in his election manifesto. We are truly entering a new dark age.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 17:54:13 GMT
I'm curious about the views of the Irish nationals on this board about The Republic's parliament. My opinion is that the geography based first past the post system in the United States tends to produce pre-homogenized candidates who do not truly represent anyone in the political spectrum (think Theresa May). I am supposing that in proportional parliamentary systems like Ireland, whatever other faults they may have, actually send people to parliament who share the views of the voters in their party. Sein Fein members actually attempt to advance Sein Fein concerns, for example. With no clear majority, this may lead to convoluted compromises, but at least the people at the negotiating table have some real connection to the voters.
Whatever else you may hate about your parliament, do you think its members are fairly faithful to their party's principles?
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Post by servantofthechief on Aug 8, 2018 17:58:34 GMT
The more time goes on the faster the degeneracy consumes our political establishment. At this rate, short of a miracle stopping it, I can only hope for it to stretch too far too fast that the pendulum inevitably, and forcibly swings back in the opposite direction. These men hate us, hate God and hate Ireland. They hate BABIES for God's sake, they are slavering at the bit to get as many children killed in the womb as possible before everything collapses on their heads.
They are better off not making references to Bastille day or the guillotine, lest we decide to reenact those dreadful things on them in a White Terror.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Aug 8, 2018 18:03:27 GMT
I'm curious about the views of the Irish nationals on this board about The Republic's parliament. My opinion is that the geography based first past the post system in the United States tends to produce pre-homogenized candidates who do not truly represent anyone in the political spectrum (think Theresa May). I am supposing that in proportional parliamentary systems like Ireland, whatever other faults they may have, actually send people to parliament who share the views of the voters in their party. Sein Fein members actually attempt to advance Sein Fein concerns, for example. With no clear majority, this may lead to convoluted compromises, but at least the people at the negotiating table have some real connection to the voters. Whatever else you may hate about your parliament, do you think its members are fairly faithful to their party's principles? What principles? That's not sarcasm; I genuinely can't detect any principles in our political parties, except perhaps the Labour Party. I think they are true to the animating principles of PC. And again, I'm not being sarcastic. There is a social philosophy that cuts across a ll parties. I don't think there's anything wrong with our parliamentary system in itself. It served us well for a long time. |
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Post by seangladium on Aug 8, 2018 18:19:08 GMT
I think the only thing that will immediately stop or at least slow it down is a complete economic collapse at this point. This will at least give an opportunity for a counter force to gain a foothold I would think. Of course, it is far from certain what will happen in the aftermath of such a collapse; it may be worse (Weimar Republic for example). A renewal in faith and turning back to Christ is the only long term solution. I think this will only be achieved at a local family/individual level as there isn't much support at the top. I agree that overall it will take something supernatural in nature for a reversal at this point. People of faith must pray for this miracle to occur!
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Post by seangladium on Aug 8, 2018 18:28:58 GMT
I'm curious about the views of the Irish nationals on this board about The Republic's parliament. My opinion is that the geography based first past the post system in the United States tends to produce pre-homogenized candidates who do not truly represent anyone in the political spectrum (think Theresa May). I am supposing that in proportional parliamentary systems like Ireland, whatever other faults they may have, actually send people to parliament who share the views of the voters in their party. Sein Fein members actually attempt to advance Sein Fein concerns, for example. With no clear majority, this may lead to convoluted compromises, but at least the people at the negotiating table have some real connection to the voters. Whatever else you may hate about your parliament, do you think its members are fairly faithful to their party's principles? What principles? That's not sarcasm; I genuinely can't detect any principles in our political parties, except perhaps the Labour Party. I think they are true to the animating principles of PC. And again, I'm not being sarcastic. There is a social philosophy that cuts across a ll parties. I don't think there's anything wrong with our parliamentary system in itself. It served us well for a long time. What about An Páirtí Náisiúnta? They seem to stand for principles at least on the surface, but I admit I do not know much about them at this point. Perhaps conservatives can get behind them in spite of our differences on individual issues, just a thought I guess. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Aug 8, 2018 18:32:11 GMT
What principles? That's not sarcasm; I genuinely can't detect any principles in our political parties, except perhaps the Labour Party. I think they are true to the animating principles of PC. And again, I'm not being sarcastic. There is a social philosophy that cuts across a ll parties. I don't think there's anything wrong with our parliamentary system in itself. It served us well for a long time. What about An Páirtí Náisiúnta? They seem to stand for principles at least on the surface, but I admit I do not know much about them at this point. Perhaps conservatives can get behind them in spite of our differences on individual issues, just a thought I guess. I'm not impressed by the National Party, mostly because Justin Barrett seems a bit of an egomaniac. Anyone who would have his photograph taken to resemble the famous profile picture of Patrick Pearse seems something of an egomaniac to me! I might vote for them anyway, as a protest vote. |
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Post by cato on Aug 8, 2018 20:39:00 GMT
I'm curious about the views of the Irish nationals on this board about The Republic's parliament. My opinion is that the geography based first past the post system in the United States tends to produce pre-homogenized candidates who do not truly represent anyone in the political spectrum (think Theresa May). I am supposing that in proportional parliamentary systems like Ireland, whatever other faults they may have, actually send people to parliament who share the views of the voters in their party. Sein Fein members actually attempt to advance Sein Fein concerns, for example. With no clear majority, this may lead to convoluted compromises, but at least the people at the negotiating table have some real connection to the voters. Whatever else you may hate about your parliament, do you think its members are fairly faithful to their party's principles? One of the curious things about our last general election is a number of high profile TDs campaigned as pro lifers and then proceeded to "journey" and adopted a radically different policy when in power. Most of our current government , including our prime minister were pro life two and half years ago. The main opposition party is pro life but its' leader refused to implement this policy , largely because of cowardice in opposing a popular liberal cause. He undermined the pro life cause and campaigned against his own party's policy. We saw the result last May 25. In our democracy you can vote pro choice and it will be respected. You can vote pro life but you will still get pro choice politicians at the end of the process. May 25 showed the power of George Soros , a liberal Media monopoly and a sinister conspiracy to avoid facing the terrible reality of what was being proposed. Similarly a Brexit style vote would never be permitted to stand if it that ever happened here. There are some issues too important for us to make the wrong decision about. That's the unwritten rule of modern Irish liberal democracy. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 22:21:51 GMT
Christians of course must be in favor of having a change in heart, but it is hard to bear when the conservative heart turns toward sin and liberals never seem to repent of their error. It is doubly hard when the “conversion” is obviously contrived.
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