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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 4, 2018 7:24:56 GMT
Interesting take (and footage) from Brittany Pettibone on the anti-migration marches in Chemntiz, which I hadn't even heard about until this morning. www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5TXrjLBcGsI'm not taking any position. I'm just saying that, every time I hear the media talk about "neo-Nazis", I'm instantly suspicious. |
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Post by seangladium on Sept 4, 2018 9:32:51 GMT
I can understand the anger of the anti-migration protestors in the video! It seems pretty apparent that this is likely just another case of the Left using the "Nazi" label to shut down free speech and stifle any dissent from their agenda. My cousin lives near Leipzig, which isn't too far from these protests. I will have to ask him what he thinks about all of this when I next see him in a couple of months.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 4, 2018 9:35:17 GMT
There also seems to be a pattern here where far-left activists attack the protestors, the police step back, and the demonstration is labelled as "violent" in the media.
I want to emphasise I'm not taking any position. Maybe there was a heavy neo-Nazi presence. I don't know.
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Post by seangladium on Sept 4, 2018 9:40:31 GMT
I remember the same pattern at the Trump rallies in certain liberal cities, where Antifa types would attack normal everyday Americans and then they would blame the normal everyday Americans for causing violence at the Trump rallies. Then Trump himself was accused of causing the violence and being a "Nazi". The police would not intervene.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 4, 2018 9:51:42 GMT
I can understand the anger of the anti-migration protestors in the video! It seems pretty apparent that this is likely just another case of the Left using the "Nazi" label to shut down free speech and stifle any dissent from their agenda. My cousin lives near Leipzig, which isn't too far from these protests. I will have to ask him what he thinks about all of this when I next see him in a couple of months. It's more disturbing than just the left closing down free speech. I really had to dig to find this footage and reportage. ALL the news reports are about neo-Nazis. It's not a case of liberal or left-wing media vs. conservative media. It's monolithic. I want to emphasise that I think anti-immigrant violence is wrong and neo-Nazism, crypto-Nazism, and every other sort of Nazism is wrong. I shouldn't have to, but this is the world we live in. Brittany Pettinbone says the protest was intended to be a silent and peaceful protest. |
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Post by Antaine on Sept 4, 2018 13:36:51 GMT
Who really gives a damn what the scummy traitors in the media, police, or politics think? Same old tune. Actions speak louder than words. Let these people take their streets back, and let everyone else label them as Nazis. When literally every other part of the country is being raped and terrorised to death, they won't be so up themselves then.
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Post by cato on Sept 4, 2018 14:03:47 GMT
I can understand the anger of the anti-migration protestors in the video! It seems pretty apparent that this is likely just another case of the Left using the "Nazi" label to shut down free speech and stifle any dissent from their agenda. My cousin lives near Leipzig, which isn't too far from these protests. I will have to ask him what he thinks about all of this when I next see him in a couple of months. It's more disturbing than just the left closing down free speech. I really had to dig to find this footage and reportage. ALL the news reports are about neo-Nazis. It's not a case of liberal or left-wing media vs. conservative media. It's monolithic. I want to emphasise that I think anti-immigrant violence is wrong and neo-Nazism, crypto-Nazism, and every other sort of Nazism is wrong. I shouldn't have to, but this is the world we live in. Brittany Pettinbone says the protest was intended to be a silent and peaceful protest. The details of the original alledged murder of a German man that sparked off the protests are hard to obtain too. Does anyone recall the murder of a Japanese man in Ireland by a moslem refugee earlier this year? Some stories get buried and some run and run. It's all very mysterious. Wanting to maintain your national borders and keep your country's ethnic profile the way it is now qualifies as Nazism in some liberal quarters. It was a deliberate strategy of marxists after World War two to label all their opponents fascists and nazis. We then had the ridiculous sight of people like Churchill and De Gaulle denounced as fascists! Lest it be forgotten they fought real fascists even when the USSR had a friendship pact with Nazi Germany 1939 -1941. Pope Pius XII was also the victim of smear attempts to present him as "Hitler's Pope " in the 1950s even though prominent Jews after the war thanked the Pope for his efforts in saving many Jewish lives. Yes there are real Nazis active today, but they are as significant politically as those who want to restore the house of Habsburg as the Holy Roman Empire. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 4, 2018 14:04:15 GMT
Who really gives a damn what the scummy traitors in the media, police, or politics think? Same old tune. Actions speak louder than words. Let these people take their streets back, and let everyone else label them as Nazis. When literally every other part of the country is being raped and terrorised to death, they won't be so up themselves then. It matters because it influences the general public. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 4, 2018 14:10:01 GMT
It's more disturbing than just the left closing down free speech. I really had to dig to find this footage and reportage. ALL the news reports are about neo-Nazis. It's not a case of liberal or left-wing media vs. conservative media. It's monolithic. I want to emphasise that I think anti-immigrant violence is wrong and neo-Nazism, crypto-Nazism, and every other sort of Nazism is wrong. I shouldn't have to, but this is the world we live in. Brittany Pettinbone says the protest was intended to be a silent and peaceful protest. The details of the original alledged murder of a German man that sparked off the protests are hard to obtain too. Does anyone recall the murder of a Japanese man in Ireland by a moslem refugee earlier this year? Some stories get buried and some run and run. It's all very mysterious. Wanting to maintain your national borders and keep your country's ethnic profile the way it is now qualifies as Nazism in some liberal quarters. It was a deliberate strategy of marxists after World War two to label all their opponents fascists and nazis. We then had the ridiculous sight of people like Churchill and De Gaulle denounced as fascists! Lest it be forgotten they fought real fascists even when the USSR had a friendship pact with Nazi Germany 1939 -1941. Pope Pius XII was also the victim of smear attempts to present him as "Hitler's Pope " in the 1950s even though prominent Jews after the war thanked the Pope for his efforts in saving many Jewish lives. Yes there are real Nazis active today, but they are as significant politically as those who want to restore the house of Habsburg as the Holy Roman Empire. All it takes is one or two idiots to give a Hitler salute or to flash a swastika, and suddenly, it's a neo-Nazi demonstration. |
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Post by seangladium on Sept 4, 2018 18:53:13 GMT
The details of the original alledged murder of a German man that sparked off the protests are hard to obtain too. Does anyone recall the murder of a Japanese man in Ireland by a moslem refugee earlier this year? Some stories get buried and some run and run. It's all very mysterious. Wanting to maintain your national borders and keep your country's ethnic profile the way it is now qualifies as Nazism in some liberal quarters. It was a deliberate strategy of marxists after World War two to label all their opponents fascists and nazis. We then had the ridiculous sight of people like Churchill and De Gaulle denounced as fascists! Lest it be forgotten they fought real fascists even when the USSR had a friendship pact with Nazi Germany 1939 -1941. Pope Pius XII was also the victim of smear attempts to present him as "Hitler's Pope " in the 1950s even though prominent Jews after the war thanked the Pope for his efforts in saving many Jewish lives. Yes there are real Nazis active today, but they are as significant politically as those who want to restore the house of Habsburg as the Holy Roman Empire. All it takes is one or two idiots to give a Hitler salute or to flash a swastika, and suddenly, it's a neo-Nazi demonstration. I have often wondered how many of those idiots are actually left wing types who are trying to associate their opponents with fascism by making those gestures themselves. Many so-called "hate crimes" have all turned out to be hoaxes in a similar manner. I am very suspicious when these types of incidents occur as it would be very useful for them to demonise the opposition this way. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 4, 2018 18:59:24 GMT
All it takes is one or two idiots to give a Hitler salute or to flash a swastika, and suddenly, it's a neo-Nazi demonstration. I have often wondered how many of those idiots are actually left wing types who are trying to associate their opponents with fascism by making those gestures themselves. Many so-called "hate crimes" have all turned out to be hoaxes in a similar manner. I am very suspicious when these types of incidents occur as it would be very useful for them to demonise the opposition this way. Yeah, me too. But if you say something like that, you risk being dismissed as a conspiracy theorist. |
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Post by Séamus on Sept 5, 2018 7:49:41 GMT
It's more disturbing than just the left closing down free speech. I really had to dig to find this footage and reportage. ALL the news reports are about neo-Nazis. It's not a case of liberal or left-wing media vs. conservative media. It's monolithic. I want to emphasise that I think anti-immigrant violence is wrong and neo-Nazism, crypto-Nazism, and every other sort of Nazism is wrong. I shouldn't have to, but this is the world we live in. Brittany Pettinbone says the protest was intended to be a silent and peaceful protest. The details of the original alledged murder of a German man that sparked off the protests are hard to obtain too. Does anyone recall the murder of a Japanese man in Ireland by a moslem refugee earlier this year? Some stories get buried and some run and run. It's all very mysterious. Wanting to maintain your national borders and keep your country's ethnic profile the way it is now qualifies as Nazism in some liberal quarters. It was a deliberate strategy of marxists after World War two to label all their opponents fascists and nazis. We then had the ridiculous sight of people like Churchill and De Gaulle denounced as fascists! Lest it be forgotten they fought real fascists even when the USSR had a friendship pact with Nazi Germany 1939 -1941. Pope Pius XII was also the victim of smear attempts to present him as "Hitler's Pope " in the 1950s even though prominent Jews after the war thanked the Pope for his efforts in saving many Jewish lives. Yes there are real Nazis active today, but they are as significant politically as those who want to restore the house of Habsburg as the Holy Roman Empire. A columnist named Liam Halligan has written an interesting piece, short, but too long to quote, for the Telegraph Media Group 'Rise of Populism'. He mentions a new-comer in Sweden named Jimmie Akesson. Don't recall if Tomas has ever mentioned him at all? |
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Post by Antaine on Sept 5, 2018 13:40:54 GMT
Who really gives a damn what the scummy traitors in the media, police, or politics think? Same old tune. Actions speak louder than words. Let these people take their streets back, and let everyone else label them as Nazis. When literally every other part of the country is being raped and terrorised to death, they won't be so up themselves then. It matters because it influences the general public. That's my point when I say action speaks louder than words, though. Let the actions of the protestors show themselves not to be Nazis, since the media will say it anyway. Sure, they can't control what is reported at the site, but they can let their daily lives speak volumes to those around them. |
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Post by rogerbuck on Sept 10, 2018 23:37:59 GMT
Watched the video with interest as to who this Brittany Pettibone person is. I've gathered from things in the past that she is some sort of populist or Alt-Right (?) youtuber who has gathered notoriety in the mainstream and is a Catholic.
But I simply don't know how to keep up with all these figures on Youtube and if anyone here could easily give me his perspectives or opinions on who she is and what she is doing, I would be very interested and grateful to hear. (Also if I am right that she is Catholic, I wonder if her faith features in her work?)
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 11, 2018 3:02:07 GMT
Watched the video with interest as to who this Brittany Pettibone person is. I've gathered from things in the past that she is some sort of populist or Alt-Right (?) youtuber who has gathered notoriety in the mainstream and is a Catholic. But I simply don't know how to keep up with all these figures on Youtube and if anyone here could easily give me his perspectives or opinions on who she is and what she is doing, I would be very interested and grateful to hear. (Also if I am right that she is Catholic, I wonder if her faith features in her work?) I don't know a huge deal about her. Herself and her sister wrote science fiction novels and now make videos which I'm not sure how to locate on the scale. I don't think she would call herself Alt Right. The few videos I've seen from her have mostly been anti-feminist. |
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