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Post by cato on Oct 29, 2018 13:30:17 GMT
As I was drinking my bank holiday breakfast coffee I was listening to a millionaire business man on radio speculating about taking over the second biggest party in the state and running for Taoiseach. Throw in a fondness for populist rhetoric and a desire to overthrow a cosy establishment and their media allies.......
Sometimes in life something or someone appears out of the blue. The politically correct liberal left is now a rigid orthodoxy in control of our state and economy. So far they have managed to avoid the blame for its various failings.
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Post by assisi on Oct 30, 2018 12:01:51 GMT
As I was drinking my bank holiday breakfast coffee I was listening to a millionaire business man on radio speculating about taking over the second biggest party in the state and running for Taoiseach. Throw in a fondness for populist rhetoric and a desire to overthrow a cosy establishment and their media allies....... Sometimes in life something or someone appears out of the blue. The politically correct liberal left is now a rigid orthodoxy in control of our state and economy. So far they have managed to avoid the blame for its various failings. I would reckon, in the Republic, there's somewhere in the range of a 25% - 35% of the electorate that would be ready for a non-left, non-establishment candidate for Taoiseach. It would be a smart idea for that candidate to join an established party (say Fianna Fail) where, outside of the 25%-35% group of voters, you might then get another 10% of the total vote from those that traditionally vote for the 'adopted' party, Fianna Fail. However the candidate's adopted party, already aware of the Trump phenomenon, would be likely split down the middle with a sizeable number unlikely to endorse what they would see as the hijacking of their party by a populist.
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Post by cato on Oct 30, 2018 16:20:04 GMT
I would reckon, in the Republic, there's somewhere in the range of a 25% - 35% of the electorate that would be ready for a non-left, non-establishment candidate for Taoiseach. It would be a smart idea for that candidate to join an established party (say Fianna Fail) where, outside of the 25%-35% group of voters, you might then get another 10% of the total vote from those that traditionally vote for the 'adopted' party, Fianna Fail. However the candidate's adopted party, already aware of the Trump phenomenon, would be likely split down the middle with a sizeable number unlikely to endorse what they would see as the hijacking of their party by a populist. I agree. I think it's much smarter for Irish conservatives to operate within the party system than to try to create new parties. The latter could only work if they actually one a seat or two and could hold the balance of power when it came to forming a government. The PC parties would most likely do what they do in France Sweden and Germany and refuse to work with the populist representatives. I still believe a conservative heave against the dreadful Micheal Martin is the best hope for conservative prospects. Eventually it must dawn on Fianna Fail they will not get feminist lefty liberal votes in any substantial numbers and there is a core one third of votes without a natural political home at present. Similarly Sinn Fein should realise it is the natural home of those who in France would be National Front voters. This working class constituency sees close up the reality of globalisation and mass immigration and it doesn't correspond to politically correct mantras of openess and diversity.
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