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Post by Stephen on Jun 7, 2017 13:03:03 GMT
Let's talk about National Clothes.
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Post by Seán Ó Murchú on Feb 1, 2021 11:24:19 GMT
Stephen did you ever talk about National Clothes and Clothing?
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Feb 1, 2021 13:11:10 GMT
Stephen did you ever talk about National Clothes and Clothing? Nope, it's all here. Whatever isn't here was never discussed. It's an interesting question. I do wear a tweed cap as a nod (so to speak) towards Irish dress. I don't have an Arán sweater, though. |
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Post by cato on Feb 1, 2021 15:55:40 GMT
Irish Tweed would appear to be the national "traditional" garb. Unfortunately tweed tends to be unflattering towards those disguising a middle age spread. President Michael D Higgins gallantly dons the tweed regularly.
Attempts were made to revive an Irish version of the male kilt duringthe early 20th century. Youngsters in Fianna Eireann proved their patriotism by wearing green kilts and cloaks with brooches. Unlike our Scottish brethren male skirts didn't catch on here although the Irish army pipers still wear the Irish kilt.
The Irish mantle - a huge woollen cloak which could double as a tent to survive outdoors in freezing conditions was apparently a famous distinctive unisex fashion accessory in the middle ages. I think the Anglo Normans passed a law at some stage preventing English speakers from wearing them too.
The issue of formal top hats versus normal fedora/or soft caps became an issue between Cumann Na Gael and Fianna Fail in the 1920s and 30s.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Feb 1, 2021 16:01:29 GMT
Attempts were made to revive an Irish version of the male kilt duringthe early 20th century. Youngsters in Fianna Eireann proved their patriotism by wearing green kilts and cloaks with brooches. Unlike our Scottish brethren male skirts didn't catch on here although the Irish army pipers still wear the Irish kilt. In one of his notes to the edition of Ulysses I'm reading, Declan Kiberd mentions this, and obliquely refers to a joke slogan of the time: "Down with trousers!" |
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Post by Séamus on Feb 2, 2021 2:27:45 GMT
Stephen did you ever talk about National Clothes and Clothing? Nope, it's all here. Whatever isn't here was never discussed. It's an interesting question. I do wear a tweed cap as a nod (so to speak) towards Irish dress. I don't have an Arán sweater, though. There was something like "Do You Dress Conservatively" early on. I remember thinking (maybe writing) at the time that GAA and O'Neil shirts seem to have,if anything, increased in popularity among the young in recent times. It may reflect a generation with more spare money to dress up in county colours as well as frequent travelling.which can also give a desire to wear team colours of one's origin. |
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Post by cato on Feb 2, 2021 13:01:25 GMT
Nope, it's all here. Whatever isn't here was never discussed. It's an interesting question. I do wear a tweed cap as a nod (so to speak) towards Irish dress. I don't have an Arán sweater, though. There was something like "Do You Dress Conservatively" early on. I remember thinking (maybe writing) at the time that GAA and O'Neil shirts seem to have,if anything, increased in popularity among the young in recent times. It may reflect a generation with more spare money to dress up in county colours as well as frequent travelling.which can also give a desire to wear team colours of one's origin. This site must be a archivists nightmare as we often start a topic and then veer off in several directions . Sometimes great minds have even started a thread an identical thread simultaneously . I had a recollection which Seamus confirmed that we did in fact visit this topic previously but I was unable to locate it. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Feb 2, 2021 17:27:10 GMT
There was something like "Do You Dress Conservatively" early on. I remember thinking (maybe writing) at the time that GAA and O'Neil shirts seem to have,if anything, increased in popularity among the young in recent times. It may reflect a generation with more spare money to dress up in county colours as well as frequent travelling.which can also give a desire to wear team colours of one's origin. This site must be a archivists nightmare as we often start a topic and then veer off in several directions . Sometimes great minds have even started a thread an identical thread simultaneously . I had a recollection which Seamus confirmed that we did in fact visit this topic previously but I was unable to locate it. I'm more than ok with that. I have a profound hatred of rationalisation! |
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Post by Antaine on Feb 5, 2021 21:18:21 GMT
I too recall that previous thread in which I posted a few pictures of some grandiose clothes I said I would like to wear.
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Post by Seán Ó Murchú on Feb 9, 2021 8:31:44 GMT
A few quick Unpopular Ideas
Shorts are for little boys!
Women wearing trouser are cross dressing.
Men and women that don't dress formally for Mass have no understanding of the Mass and human psychology.
Dresses that are above the knee for Women are for street walker, not ladies.
T-shirts and hoodies should not be worn in Public.
Men that wear jewelry our effeminate.
NB: Obviously we have exceptions, that prove the rule!
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Post by Antaine on Mar 1, 2021 19:04:13 GMT
Honestly, I agree with most of the above to some degree or another.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Mar 1, 2021 20:55:42 GMT
I am much more interested in the national distinctiveness of dress, rather than the formality.
Yes, formality is good, but distinctiveness is better.
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Post by Seán Ó Murchú on Apr 12, 2021 11:13:02 GMT
I am much more interested in the national distinctiveness of dress, rather than the formality. Yes, formality is good, but distinctiveness is better. That's a good point and I think we can have both in a rightly ordered society.  |
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Post by cato on Apr 12, 2021 11:44:03 GMT
I am much more interested in the national distinctiveness of dress, rather than the formality. Yes, formality is good, but distinctiveness is better. That's a good point and I think we can have both in a rightly ordered society. Wow ! Pictures on this site! And in colour! This is a dramatic break with venerable tradition. It is also narrowly Eurocentric with no non white BAME or LGBTI representation. Probably an objective Hate Crime? |
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Post by Seán Ó Murchú on Apr 12, 2021 15:16:24 GMT
That's a good point and I think we can have both in a rightly ordered society. Wow ! Pictures on this site! And in colour! This is a dramatic break with venerable tradition. It is also narrowly Eurocentric with no non white BAME or LGBTI representation. Probably an objective Hate Crime? Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin condemns any people. Proverbs 14:34  Ethiopian Christian Wedding |
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