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Post by Maolsheachlann on Mar 1, 2019 14:05:05 GMT
Gemma O'Doherty is starting a new "citizen's movement" to fight corruption and globalism in Ireland. anti-corruptionireland.com/It has quite a large range of policies, many of them socially conservative and nationalist. We have a lot of new parties and movements springing up on the right. There's Irexit, the National Party, Aontú, and now this. I have to say that Gemma O'Doherty impresses me greatly, though. I would like to see this movement prosper.
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Post by cato on Mar 26, 2019 13:03:35 GMT
I like to listen to her as she isn't afraid to go near taboo topics and she calls a spade a spade. Her heart is in the right place but she does tend to veer towards the conspiratorial.
She was targeted last night in Cork when those two hotel venues who agreed to host her meeting were threatened . This type of thuggery was part of the Repeal campaign at one stage. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if one of our hard line Marxist parties were behind this latest attempt to shut down free speech.
I would cut down some of the more outlandish causes she advocated like the anti-vaacine cause. She has I hear 25 agenda items. Better to concentrate on half that or less and avoid issues were the media love to present you as really mad. Perhaps the name could be changed too?
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Post by assisi on Mar 26, 2019 22:02:55 GMT
I like to listen to her as she isn't afraid to go near taboo topics and she calls a spade a spade. Her heart is in the right place but she does tend to veer towards the conspiratorial. She was targeted last night in Cork when those two hotel venues who agreed to host her meeting were threatened . This type of thuggery was part of the Repeal campaign at one stage. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if one of our hard line Marxist parties were behind this latest attempt to shut down free speech. I would cut down some of the more outlandish causes she advocated like the anti-vaacine cause. She has I hear 25 agenda items. Better to concentrate on half that or less and avoid issues were the media love to present you as really mad. Perhaps the name could be changed too? She is good and she has journalistic experience but you are correct about the conspiratorial subjects. For example she will have an interest in the Madeleine McCann case and will readily discuss JFK conspiracies and hold non-establishment views on the likes of 9/11. She has spoken to some contributors who see conspiratorial symbolism in many of the recent atrocities. This will leave her open to ridicule if she is put on the spot by someone trying to discredit her. Her strengths are her knowledge of corruption in the police as well as sexual abuse stories throughout society in Ireland. She is adamant about the harm of fluoridisation in the water, vaccines such as HPV and 5G comms. However all these are contested scientific questions and can be argued for and against. The 5G however does sound scary. The 20 pillars is indeed too much and she may be spreading herself too thinly. I would say that she is most passionate about the globalisation/immigration issue and the sexual abuse/sexual indoctrination of Irish children. These 2 could constitute her 'A' list of subjects with the others subjects as areas of interest (perhaps the 5G issue could also be at the forefront now before the technology is implemented). She had 2 cancellations of hotels in Cork via calls made to the hotels and also a last hour call off from a Cork pub whose reception rooms was booked. So I don't think the Cork meeting took place. Tragic that it has come to this.
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Post by cato on Apr 6, 2019 14:29:41 GMT
I watched a video today were Gemma led a protest outside RTE in Donnybrook. I detest RTE with every fibre of my being but I was very put off by the tone of her video.
She was probably upset by getting 30 or so protesters but she lecturered people who weren't there . Those that turned up were caring patriots . Those that weren't don't care.... This dividing of Irish people is pointless. Most people still need to be converted . You don't do that by insulting or belittling them.
Similarly she is very dismissive towards the Gardai. On occasion she has branded them all as corrupt. This is grossly unfair. I agree the force needs radical reforms but it has many fine patriotic public servants in its ranks. In the video she hectors Guards who are only doing their job. They are not the enemy. Gemma often complains about persecution from the hard left. If there was a violent clash with them today she would have rightly demanded police protection.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Apr 8, 2019 9:21:04 GMT
I watched a video today were Gemma led a protest outside RTE in Donnybrook. I detest RTE with every fibre of my being but I was very put off by the tone of her video. She was probably upset by getting 30 or so protesters but she lecturered people who weren't there . Those that turned up were caring patriots . Those that weren't don't care.... This dividing of Irish people is pointless. Most people still need to be converted . You don't do that by insulting or belittling them. Similarly she is very dismissive towards the Gardai. On occasion she has branded them all as corrupt. This is grossly unfair. I agree the force needs radical reforms but it has many fine patriotic public servants in its ranks. In the video she hectors Guards who are only doing their job. They are not the enemy. Gemma often complains about persecution from the hard left. If there was a violent clash with them today she would have rightly demanded police protection. I understand her urgency but I agree her tone is too hectoring and absolutist. I really feel if she was a bit more temperate in her rhetoric she might be the great hope of conservatives. She suggests that the only reason people don't speak out is cowardice, but I don't agree. I feel people are often genuinely confused. I often agree with Gemma but there are times I wonder if she being somewhat hysterical. I think she is also taking on too many issues, many of which can be dismissed as conspiracy theories and harm her credibility. She should focus on the most urgent.
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Post by cato on Apr 8, 2019 9:47:37 GMT
We do need to choose our battles. We cannot do everything. Gemma is a courageous journalist but by seemingly against everything she is in danger of being seen as a crack pot.
She criticises the Gardai regularly . Why doesn't she advocate a positive reform programme like that which transformed the RUC into the PSNI? The police can't be trusted with crime statistics by the CSO which is shocking and embarrassing. They persecute whistle blowers and they betrayed the public with a unforgivable threat to strike - The cowardly blue flu episode when the streets were left almost defenceless.
Law and order is a a basic conservative cause. I think it could be a significant vote winner too.
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Post by assisi on Apr 8, 2019 12:02:49 GMT
I know that we have discussed, and wished for, new conservatively inclined political parties that we can vote for in good conscience. But that takes time and organisation. There is another possible way to bring down or seriously wound the political dross that currently holds sway without forming a new party, namely to expose criminality and corruption within that ruling body.
Exposing incompetence doesn't seem to be enough to bring certain people down. And if it did then the person who resigns is simply replaced by another lookalike. What needs to be exposed is criminality that can be stood over in a court.
Now senior members of the ruling parties may be whiter than white, and if so, then it's a dead end. But the idea of a in depth journalistic investigation of the top brass would be a worthwhile exercise due to the damage these people are currently wreaking. And perhaps that's were Gemma may be at her best.
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