|
|
Post by Stephen on Jun 9, 2017 13:12:32 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by servantofthechief on Jun 10, 2017 21:48:20 GMT
I am cautious, but I have heard the man's rhetoric and evident passion for Ireland and have liked what I have seen and heard. I have also noticed the southern media is doing the smart thing and trying its best NOT to give him or his party the light of day so as to keep most people in the dark about his brand of nationalism, rather than doing the typical liberal foolishness of trying to mock them into nonexistence (which doesn't work with people who are utterly unapologetic, which this man has as a virtue I feel). The party doesn't seem as strongly in favour of Catholicism as I would prefer but is shameless in invoking 'God and Country' nationalism which is an acceptable alternative to... literally everything we have going on in Dublin right now, and the party's principles seem to be heavily focused on what's good for the nation rather than what is good for the economy, which I find hard to disagree with. The party has shades of ethnonationalism as well, which I personally approve of after a long time of contemplating where I stood on the matter. It is not dismissive of other cultures or races but unapologetic in the need for the state to serve the nation and the right of the Irish to exist as a distinct population, socially, culturally and ethnically. It is a party I think, if it could get some momentum behind it, would actively strike fear into the political establishment, it has no past baggage due to no ties with 'old school' nationalism or the shadow of the IRA or the civil war, which I see as a plus, it is openly revanchanist in the sense it claims the whole of Ireland as the territory of Ireland, which attracts me as a northern nationalist, and it also has as a bonus, no ties to economic dogmatism and rather a more pragmatic view on what one should do regarding economic policies rather than hiding behind economic dogmatic principles and risk being subverted by courting NGOs and corporations. All these reasons and more is exactly why they'll probably never get in power, even if they get popular, its very possible they'll be deemed 'subversives' by the southern government and arrested at some point. The globalists have a neat gig going here, they're not going to let home grown alternative nationalism buck the trend. Its anti-abortion, openly nationalist and all around saying all these great things. I first became aware of them after they added me on Gab.ai, not a bad bunch I don't think, I like what they're saying, but I need to see some results to have any faith they can seriously shake things up in Ireland. But to their eternal credit, the man does not mince words: www.facebook.com/AnPairtiNaisiunta/videos/vb.199999773787334/292350577885586/?type=2&theaterHere's a break down of some of their principles. www.nationalparty.ie/principles/ |
|
|
|
Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 11, 2017 13:05:14 GMT
The party has shades of ethnonationalism as well, which I personally approve of after a long time of contemplating where I stood on the matter. It is not dismissive of other cultures or races but unapologetic in the need for the state to serve the nation and the right of the Irish to exist as a distinct population, socially, culturally and ethnically. Very neatly put and I completely agree, though I'm less keen on the revanchism. |
|
|
|
Post by ClassicalRepublican on Jun 13, 2017 22:12:04 GMT
I have to say I'm impressed with this small party.
I've heard it said that the old left-right dichotomy is irrelevant and the new polarity is globalism (and its attendant progressivism) and nationalism. Peter Hitchens similarly identifies that both the British conservative and labour parties are dominated by Blairite (globalist-progressivism) factions and that UK politics should be realined as Blarites and a new coalition of Tori nationalists and the patriotic faction of old labour.
I've only ever voted in referenda - I've never voted for a politician; not one has ever impressed me enough. I would vote for a candidate standing for the National Party without hesitation. Barrett's invocations of Pearsean imagery is not to my liking though.
|
|
|
|
Post by Maolsheachlann on Aug 11, 2018 16:40:25 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkzr8rDIxLwHere is a video in which Justin Barrett argues that "populist" parties have generally been around for a long time as micro-parties before they became mainstream parties. It's a good point. How long were UKIP around before Brexit? They were seen as a joke for a long time, back in the Robert Kilroy Silk era especially. I frankly don't like Justin Barrett-- I don't like his "strong man" type of nationalism-- but I could still imagine myself voting NP if I ever got the opportunity. Irish political history is not encouraging to small parties, though.
|
|
|
|
Post by cato on Aug 14, 2018 21:29:20 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkzr8rDIxLwHere is a video in which Justin Barrett argues that "populist" parties have generally been around for a long time as micro-parties before they became mainstream parties. It's a good point. How long were UKIP around before Brexit? They were seen as a joke for a long time, back in the Robert Kilroy Silk era especially. I frankly don't like Justin Barrett-- I don't like his "strong man" type of nationalism-- but I could still imagine myself voting NP if I ever got the opportunity. Irish political history is not encouraging to small parties, though. I share your scepticism about Barrett's style but I would find little to object to in their party programme. It seems to say little about the liberal cultural agenda perhaps because it is all dominant at present in Ireland. Most Irish people are at least soft left and there is little evidence of any solid opposition to this agenda. Perhaps now that it is establishment orthodoxy , people will eventually start questioning it when it gets stale and rotten. Part of Barrett's problem is that he has achieved little of note outside of politics and nothing within politics to date. I still believe the best chance of a conservative main stream party is to oust Micheal Martin within Fianna Fail and to postion the party it in a more eurosceptic Ireland First position. Unlikely perhaps , but not as unlikely of a National party breakthrough politically. Their one big chance will be in the event of another economic crash and a rise in racial unrest directed against some of the new Irish. |
|
