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Post by cato on Sept 12, 2019 11:51:13 GMT
As time moves on fewer and fewer remember the numbing monotonous casual horror of the almost daily slaughter that the people of Northern Ireland experienced for decades. BBC journalist Darragh Mc Intyre is presenting a seven part series on those terrible times using interviews and much unseen footage.
I wasn't aware a catholic builder who narrowly missed hitting the Queen with a brick in Belfast in 1966 was charged with treason. He escaped hanging , instead serving 4 years in jail.I was struck by images of the early civil rights marches were the demonstrators were adults dressed in their Sunday best, holding placards dressed in shirt and ties. A couple of years later you see young teenagers in denims hurling petrol bombs. The revolution was under way.
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Post by Tomas on Nov 6, 2023 10:20:06 GMT
I have ordered the book by Matt Treacy on the IRA 1956-1969. Looking forward to learn about the dramatic turns in these years. Has anyone here read it and perhaps could bring some endorsement?
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Post by cato on Nov 7, 2023 12:52:04 GMT
I have ordered the book by Matt Treacy on the IRA 1956-1969. Looking forward to learn about the dramatic turns in these years. Has anyone here read it and perhaps could bring some endorsement? That book slipped under my radar. I have been looking for a book on the IRA's 1950 border campaign for some time. Some of the IRA membership at that time were quite right-wing and very Catholic unlike the later drift into leftist chic. The current Sinn Fein movement still espouse Brits out but are avid fans of open borders ie everyone else well in. Eventually this inconsistent stance will come under enormous strain. Many Sinn Fein supporters are dismayed at the rapid changes to Irish identity and the stresses placed on poorer working class communities. I ll order Treacey's book which appears well researched. Thanks for the reference. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Nov 7, 2023 15:10:46 GMT
I have ordered the book by Matt Treacy on the IRA 1956-1969. Looking forward to learn about the dramatic turns in these years. Has anyone here read it and perhaps could bring some endorsement? That book slipped under my radar. I have been looking for a book on the IRA's 1950 border campaign for some time. Some of the IRA membership at that time were quite right-wing and very Catholic unlike the later drift into leftist chic. The current Sinn Fein movement still espouse Brits out but are avid fans of open borders ie everyone else well in. Eventually this inconsistent stance will come under enormous strain. Many Sinn Fein supporters are dismayed at the rapid changes to Irish identity and the stresses placed on poorer working class communities. I ll order Treacey's book which appears well researched. Thanks for the reference. I've read Soldiers of Folly: the IRA Border Campaign by Barry Flynn. It was pretty good. I pretty much agree with you about the "Brits out, everyone else in" philosophy of Sinn Féin. But, to play devil's advocate, they'd probably say their problem was never the PRESENCE of British people here, but rather British state power, and all they ever wanted was an all-Ireland government regardless of the island's ethnic composition. Which would seem to make all the bódhran playing, Gaelic-speaking, hurley-swinging side of things pointless. |
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Post by cato on Nov 7, 2023 19:04:49 GMT
That book slipped under my radar. I have been looking for a book on the IRA's 1950 border campaign for some time. Some of the IRA membership at that time were quite right-wing and very Catholic unlike the later drift into leftist chic. The current Sinn Fein movement still espouse Brits out but are avid fans of open borders ie everyone else well in. Eventually this inconsistent stance will come under enormous strain. Many Sinn Fein supporters are dismayed at the rapid changes to Irish identity and the stresses placed on poorer working class communities. I ll order Treacey's book which appears well researched. Thanks for the reference. I've read Soldiers of Folly: the IRA Border Campaign by Barry Flynn. It was pretty good. I pretty much agree with you about the "Brits out, everyone else in" philosophy of Sinn Féin. But, to play devil's advocate, they'd probably say their problem was never the PRESENCE of British people here, but rather British state power, and all they ever wanted was an all-Ireland government regardless of the island's ethnic composition. Which would seem to make all the bódhran playing, Gaelic-speaking, hurley-swinging side of things They seem OK with replacing British power with EU power which has a core goal ever closer union, which is clearly incompatible with any form of Nationalist ideology or state sovereignty. Their embrace of wokery and anti Western ideology does them no favours in the USA among wealthy donors but does appeal to a certain student union type of Republican activist. Their current anti Israeli frenzy is also somewhat at odds with the party's staunch defence of Ireland's neutrality in foreign wars. Sceptics of mass immigration will look for a political home. How long will Sinn Fein ignore this issue or actually promote open borders? There will be an opportunity for some new movement given virtually every current party in the Dail is pro open doors immigration. |
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Post by Tomas on Nov 8, 2023 8:09:37 GMT
I've read Soldiers of Folly: the IRA Border Campaign by Barry Flynn. It was pretty good. I pretty much agree with you about the "Brits out, everyone else in" philosophy of Sinn Féin. But, to play devil's advocate, they'd probably say their problem was never the PRESENCE of British people here, but rather British state power, and all they ever wanted was an all-Ireland government regardless of the island's ethnic composition. Which would seem to make all the bódhran playing, Gaelic-speaking, hurley-swinging side of things They seem OK with replacing British power with EU power which has a core goal ever closer union, which is clearly incompatible with any form of Nationalist ideology or state sovereignty. Their embrace of wokery and anti Western ideology does them no favours in the USA among wealthy donors but does appeal to a certain student union type of Republican activist. Their current anti Israeli frenzy is also somewhat at odds with the party's staunch defence of Ireland's neutrality in foreign wars. Sceptics of mass immigration will look for a political home. How long will Sinn Fein ignore this issue or actually promote open borders? There will be an opportunity for some new movement given virtually every current party in the Dail is pro open doors immigration. In the book mentioned there are both first hand interviews and general background summaries. Today the Sinn Fein looks more like stern absurd "anti"-talk on the common Leftist platform. |
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