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Post by Maolsheachlann on Aug 25, 2020 8:37:56 GMT
Such a shame if it is a troll. I knew a guy who as an experiment set up a fake FB account as a black man and went round some lib groups espousing his support for dictators, family life, marriage, anti-LGBT etc in the most forceful language and no one dared challenge him. One guy on this thread even "liked" his comment! |
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Post by eala on May 13, 2023 9:28:08 GMT
It's strange that up until recently at least Irish emigrants to say the USA or Australia became after a period of exile Irish -Americans or Irish-Australians. That hypen seemed to indicate a hybrid inbetween status. Proud to be Irish in many cases but also willing to become full citizens of a new state. There were never any Irish-British or Irish -Scots but that's another tale. Strange too that as soon as anyone from no matter where gets an Irish passport they now automatically become as Irish as Peg Sayers. We all know this is nonsense but why don't we accept new comers for a period will be a distinct community in our midst. Some may integrate very rapidly where others may stay in a small group of their compatriots. Just like the experience of Irish abroad. Identity is a complex thing but pretending that getting a passport with a harp on it makes you automatically 100% Irish is downright dishonest. Social Theorists often refer to Nation states as "Imagined" communities. We seem to have gone a step further in Ireland and are asking people to accept an Imaginery community. 'There were never any Irish-British or Irish -Scots but that's another tale. ' - No, but the double barrel worked the other way, If Brits came over to Ireland they made a point of distinguishing themselves from the 'mere Irish' they were Scots-Irish, and Anglo-Irish etc. The Irish who went to Britain were Irish, but Brits often think Irish as a subsection of British anyway, albeit a bit uncouth relative. They tend to have boundary issues' british isles'etc |
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Post by cato on May 13, 2023 14:09:07 GMT
It's strange that up until recently at least Irish emigrants to say the USA or Australia became after a period of exile Irish -Americans or Irish-Australians. That hypen seemed to indicate a hybrid inbetween status. Proud to be Irish in many cases but also willing to become full citizens of a new state. There were never any Irish-British or Irish -Scots but that's another tale. Strange too that as soon as anyone from no matter where gets an Irish passport they now automatically become as Irish as Peg Sayers. We all know this is nonsense but why don't we accept new comers for a period will be a distinct community in our midst. Some may integrate very rapidly where others may stay in a small group of their compatriots. Just like the experience of Irish abroad. Identity is a complex thing but pretending that getting a passport with a harp on it makes you automatically 100% Irish is downright dishonest. Social Theorists often refer to Nation states as "Imagined" communities. We seem to have gone a step further in Ireland and are asking people to accept an Imaginery community. 'There were never any Irish-British or Irish -Scots but that's another tale. ' - No, but the double barrel worked the other way, If Brits came over to Ireland they made a point of distinguishing themselves from the 'mere Irish' they were Scots-Irish, and Anglo-Irish etc. The Irish who went to Britain were Irish, but Brits often think Irish as a subsection of British anyway, albeit a bit uncouth relative. They tend to have boundary issues' british isles'etc My second generation Irish cousins pretty much all identify as British even English now. My parents returned after a brief two year stay. An uncle of mine involved in the 1950s border campaign confessed he voted Tory as he admired Thatchers pro business agenda. |
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