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Post by SedNomini on Oct 22, 2020 18:51:46 GMT
Are we yet at the point where we can bring bi-directional repatriation into the conversation?
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Post by Tomas on Oct 22, 2020 19:25:56 GMT
Are we yet at the point where we can bring bi-directional repatriation into the conversation? I guess so. But it would need to be slow in motion, and prudent by common sense moral standards. |
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Post by SedNomini on Oct 22, 2020 20:12:38 GMT
Are there any prominent voices talking about this yet?
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Post by Tomas on Oct 22, 2020 21:03:27 GMT
Are there any prominent voices talking about this yet? Not that I know of. Definitely this will never happen in the near future, and by near meant perhaps 10-15-20 years ahead. If it ever will be done it would need a major shift in views and majority going for it. Democracy decides if how and when in the end, and all´s well that ends well? Overton window meaning only what is possible to suggest as a policy without being dismissed as an extremist, if the short search description were right. So then it may be there in discussion "soon enough" without much probability to actually being enforced after that? When you asked about bringing it into conversation I took it for a question for this forum only. (I´m not living in Ireland myself so nothing to say on the present voices.) |
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Post by SedNomini on Oct 22, 2020 21:28:24 GMT
I would imagine that any conservative of any stripe would be thinking about repatriation and how we get there. Was it Moldbug that had the concept of Media Driven Democracy? but if people continue to progress away from the mainstream narrative, I hope more and more that the masses will start voicing support for it. I think our job is to talk, share, red-pill etc. people away from the narrative and the fake opposition into authentic dialogue
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Post by Tomas on Oct 22, 2020 21:55:26 GMT
I would imagine that any conservative of any stripe would be thinking about repatriation and how we get there. Was it Moldbug that had the concept of Media Driven Democracy? but if people continue to progress away from the mainstream narrative, I hope more and more that the masses will start voicing support for it. I think our job is to talk, share, red-pill etc. people away from the narrative and the fake opposition into authentic dialogue Probably not, any stripe are quite wide and the world is as it is. Democracy and Conservatism in the old sense might be more to the ground than just discussing politics as narratives, changing views no end. In the digital age and flux internet politics, nothing is what it looks like in the first place anyway, so more or less nothing sane can be done for the basic rights and wants inherent in the business. Public opinion and statistics are perhaps of less importance than philosphical grounding when it comes to political dialogue on things like immigration? |
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Post by SedNomini on Oct 22, 2020 22:18:27 GMT
I agree, Principles cut through any datum. If we can supply a better narrative, lies won't work - which is what happened to us
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Post by cato on Oct 29, 2020 9:38:01 GMT
Reading this makes me realise I am officially "past it".
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Post by rogerbuck on Nov 2, 2020 18:50:54 GMT
Reading this makes me realise I am officially "past it". I think I know the feeing, Cato! I need a little bit of de-coding to get my poor, senile head around this.  But I would be grateful for translations! I suspect it's very interesting, if only I could understand it better. And welcome, SedNomini! |
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