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Post by kj on Nov 15, 2020 11:02:18 GMT
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Post by cato on Nov 15, 2020 14:02:57 GMT
Excellent artice KJ.
I have come across a few "prophecies" in Irish saints lives which seem to imply a final apostasy of the Irish. I 'll try to dig them up.
I had been planning a post on Heinrich Bolls Irish Journal coincidently.
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Post by cato on Nov 11, 2021 0:24:18 GMT
I have been trying to find that prophecy about the end of Catholic Ireland for ages with no success until tonight. I am reading The 16th century Life of St Columba compiled in 1532 by the ruler of what is now County Donegal Manus O Donnell.
He discusses the blaze of faith that Patrick and Columba brought but... "The Church in Ireland would fall into decay at the end of time, so that there would be no faith and piety there except like the embers and sparks, dim and dark".( p23 Brian Lacey edit)
Its not de fide obviously but its an interesting aside that not everyone believed Catholic Ireland would last forever.
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Post by eala on Mar 22, 2023 0:33:48 GMT
The line about crying out for our likes again is reminiscent of the grand inquistor speech. |
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Post by Antaine on Mar 25, 2023 18:19:02 GMT
It doesn't seem to be mentioned in that article, and it's probably not news to anyone here, but there is that vision St Patrick supposedly had about the faith of Ireland. He saw the Faith represented as a burning fire that began to dwindle down until it was just embers (like what Cato mentioned above). Patrick looked on in horror, fearing the Irish were doomed, only to see the flame ignite once more, shining greater than it had before. True vision or optimistic folk tale?
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Post by cato on Mar 26, 2023 10:14:30 GMT
It doesn't seem to be mentioned in that article, and it's probably not news to anyone here, but there is that vision St Patrick supposedly had about the faith of Ireland. He saw the Faith represented as a burning fire that began to dwindle down until it was just embers (like what Cato mentioned above). Patrick looked on in horror, fearing the Irish were doomed, only to see the flame ignite once more, shining greater than it had before. True vision or optimistic folk tale? What I find interesting Antaine is that these stories exist at all. It's strange that someone , inspired or not , imagined a future national apostasy. I believe a Christian remnant will remain but Irish Christendom is dead. I doubt we will witness her resurrection bar an unforseen miracle. But then again Christians believe miracles are possible . |
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Post by Tomas on Mar 27, 2023 9:26:41 GMT
It doesn't seem to be mentioned in that article, and it's probably not news to anyone here, but there is that vision St Patrick supposedly had about the faith of Ireland. He saw the Faith represented as a burning fire that began to dwindle down until it was just embers (like what Cato mentioned above). Patrick looked on in horror, fearing the Irish were doomed, only to see the flame ignite once more, shining greater than it had before. True vision or optimistic folk tale? Such visions abound and I believe they are far better and more accurate than all the lamestream media together any given day. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Mar 27, 2023 9:30:32 GMT
I am consoled by the fact that there is no hint of Christendom in the New Testament. All the inspired writers, when giving their spiritual advice and injunctions, seemed to assume Christians were a minority. If we trust the Holy Spirit wrote for the benefit of all future Christians, perhaps there's a good reason for this.
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Post by cato on Mar 27, 2023 17:07:17 GMT
I am consoled by the fact that there is no hint of Christendom in the New Testament. All the inspired writers, when giving their spiritual advice and injunctions, seemed to assume Christians were a minority. If we trust the Holy Spirit wrote for the benefit of all future Christians, perhaps there's a good reason for this. Wasn't the Kingdom of God proclaimed by Christ the inspiration for Christendom though? I know it fell short often in horrendous ways but the theory would seem to stem from Christ's words. Theocracy has been tried by idealists, saints and yes knaves, wanting to create an earthly city of God. |
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