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Post by Antaine on Nov 24, 2020 18:56:58 GMT
So, I was on Twitter today, and noticed the above title trending. Clicking on it to learn more, it was difficult to understand since people were too busy trying to sound like internet smart/hard asses, but from what I could gather it was an anti-Trans trend. However, being a feminist thing, no one quite had the guts to use the T word, but instead settled for talking about "women who believe in biology" being "disenfranchised" and "silenced". One particular lunatic even went so far as to argue that "misogynists" were behind this apparent suppression. It would be funny to watch these groups turn on each other if I wasn't already so jaded. In particular, people are very upset with Amnesty and the Women's Council of Ireland.
Does anyone have any more details on this?
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Post by hilary on Nov 25, 2020 16:38:53 GMT
I hadn't heard of it but I do sometimes watch an English youtuber Kellie Jay Keen who talks, especially from a parent's perspective, about transgender issues and how they affect women, and the RSE curriculum in schools - LGBT etc. I think she would have a more conservative following than this Irish person/group seems to be but the issue is probably going to be popular with a lot of people so maybe they're getting in on it and testing the water with progressives.
It reminds me of an ad I heard a couple of times in the last week with Packie Bonnar about the national flag - which seemed to me an attempt to get the tricolour away from the "far-right" and into the ownership of Ireland in all its diversity. But maybe I'm reading too much into it.
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Post by Antaine on Nov 25, 2020 21:27:17 GMT
It's funny because the feminists were the ones pushing all these identity politics for so long, and now they are suddenly splitting over the trans issue. I really don't know how the T got lumped in with the LGB in the first place. Very odd.
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Post by assisi on Nov 25, 2020 22:32:54 GMT
It's funny because the feminists were the ones pushing all these identity politics for so long, and now they are suddenly splitting over the trans issue. I really don't know how the T got lumped in with the LGB in the first place. Very odd. Yes. Now women's identity comes second to 'Trans' identities in the new hierarchy of PC equality. And, to a certain extent, feminism has been a contributor to this state of affairs. I remember the cover of Germaine Greer's influential feminist book of the 1970s, The Female Eunuch, had a startling cover showing the female skin as something that could be put on or off just like a coat or dress. Now I'm sure that Greer's idea was not that male and female were biologically optional, but a representation of how women were treated by male dominated society. Nevertheless the first impression was that the female form was like an outer covering to be put on or off. The Trans activists have now deplatformed Greer from several University talks because she believes a Trans women is not a woman, but a man. Even worse that Greer's iconic book cover was the feminist Simone De Beauvoir's assertion in her famous book 'The Second Sex' that 'One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman'. I haven't read the book, but I think De Beauvoir made this statement relating to how women have been treated as some kind of social construct through the ages. But, to our modern day gender theory enthusiasts, this phrase can be hijacked to justify the fluidity of gender. I'm firmly on the side of women who say that men can't become women. But it seems that all that radical feminising of the post war period and the 60s sexual revolution, did partially pave the way for the current mess, although completely unintended.
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