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Post by Seán Ó Murchú on Jan 4, 2021 20:55:45 GMT
I'm interested in discussing Christian Third Position Economics Particularly Distributism, Falangism, Corporatism, integralism, Carlism from a Irish perspective. I myself am honestly interested in a learning abut politics and economics from a Catholic perspective. I wish to explore the organic state that gets away from Liberal Capitalism and Communism (Materialism). I myself come from the Royalist/ Traditionalist point of view that wants to see a modern state that is rightly order as seen in the writings of the church. Keith Woods gives a good overview of the movement www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHzdVHt9y10If your interested please start the conversation if not have a prayerful and productive day. |
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Post by Tomas on Jan 4, 2021 21:33:26 GMT
I'm interested in discussing Christian Third Position Economics Particularly Distributism, Falangism, Corporatism, integralism, Carlism from a Irish perspective. I myself am honestly interested in a learning abut politics and economics from a Catholic perspective. I wish to explore the organic state that gets away from Liberal Capitalism and Communism (Materialism). I myself come from the Royalist/ Traditionalist point of view that wants to see a modern state that is rightly order as seen in the writings of the church. Keith Woods gives a good overview of the movement www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHzdVHt9y10If your interested please start the conversation if not have a prayerful and productive day. As the video shows there are many similar treats yet there are many differences as well. I wonder sometimes if not even the Liberal-Left stick to "hierarchy". It seems they never leave off in practise at any rate. |
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Post by Young Ireland on Jan 14, 2021 21:26:24 GMT
I'm interested in discussing Christian Third Position Economics Particularly Distributism, Falangism, Corporatism, integralism, Carlism from a Irish perspective. I myself am honestly interested in a learning abut politics and economics from a Catholic perspective. I wish to explore the organic state that gets away from Liberal Capitalism and Communism (Materialism). I myself come from the Royalist/ Traditionalist point of view that wants to see a modern state that is rightly order as seen in the writings of the church. Keith Woods gives a good overview of the movement www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHzdVHt9y10If your interested please start the conversation if not have a prayerful and productive day. You do realise that Third Positionism is basically repackaged Strasserism, right? Given that many of those who promote that particular ideology are rabidly anti-Semitic and/or are influenced by the Nazi occultist Julius Evola, I would suggest giving this stuff a wide berth without looking back! |
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Post by cato on Jan 17, 2021 21:40:53 GMT
I'm interested in discussing Christian Third Position Economics Particularly Distributism, Falangism, Corporatism, integralism, Carlism from a Irish perspective. I myself am honestly interested in a learning abut politics and economics from a Catholic perspective. I wish to explore the organic state that gets away from Liberal Capitalism and Communism (Materialism). I myself come from the Royalist/ Traditionalist point of view that wants to see a modern state that is rightly order as seen in the writings of the church. Keith Woods gives a good overview of the movement www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHzdVHt9y10If your interested please start the conversation if not have a prayerful and productive day. You do realise that Third Positionism is basically repackaged Strasserism, right? Given that many of those who promote that particular ideology are rabidly anti-Semitic and/or are influenced by the Nazi occultist Julius Evola, I would suggest giving this stuff a wide berth without looking back! The term Third position comes up in more recent times. I recall Tony Blair influenced by some of his catholic reading attempting to adopt a third way (In his words) between liberal capitalism and state socialism. It seems to have ended up with him endorsing a lot of Mrs Thatcher's economic legacy while also spending a lot of state money on social projects. He also encouraged people to take on personal credit and spend money they didn't have. We know where all that led a decade or so ago. |
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Post by Young Ireland on Jan 18, 2021 19:56:25 GMT
You do realise that Third Positionism is basically repackaged Strasserism, right? Given that many of those who promote that particular ideology are rabidly anti-Semitic and/or are influenced by the Nazi occultist Julius Evola, I would suggest giving this stuff a wide berth without looking back! The term Third position comes up in more recent times. I recall Tony Blair influenced by some of his catholic reading attempting to adopt a third way (In his words) between liberal capitalism and state socialism. It seems to have ended up with him endorsing a lot of Mrs Thatcher's economic legacy while also spending a lot of state money on social projects. He also encouraged people to take on personal credit and spend money they didn't have. We know where all that led a decade or so ago. Hi Cato, the type of politics promoted by Bill Clinton and Tony Blair is actually called the " Third Way" as opposed to the Third Position. Some confusion is totally understandable given that they are both syncretic ideologies that claim to blend left and right. However, I'd be extremely surprised if Mr. Murphy was promoting the Third Way given that he mentioned Falangism as one of his inspirations, in addition to Keith Woods. |
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Post by cato on Jan 19, 2021 16:30:39 GMT
The term Third position comes up in more recent times. I recall Tony Blair influenced by some of his catholic reading attempting to adopt a third way (In his words) between liberal capitalism and state socialism. It seems to have ended up with him endorsing a lot of Mrs Thatcher's economic legacy while also spending a lot of state money on social projects. He also encouraged people to take on personal credit and spend money they didn't have. We know where all that led a decade or so ago. Hi Cato, the type of politics promoted by Bill Clinton and Tony Blair is actually called the " Third Way" as opposed to the Third Position. Some confusion is totally understandable given that they are both syncretic ideologies that claim to blend left and right. However, I'd be extremely surprised if Mr. Murphy was promoting the Third Way given that he mentioned Falangism as one of his inspirations, in addition to Keith Woods. I was gently drawing attention to a rather contemporary version of a long established historical trend to provide an economic via media. The integralist catholic right aren't the only people to have attempted to marry the best of both and avoiding the worst of either. In theory. I do suspect Mr Murphy hadn't New Labour in mind but their platform was probably the last attempt in the real world. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jan 19, 2021 16:42:30 GMT
I'm interested in discussing Christian Third Position Economics Particularly Distributism, Falangism, Corporatism, integralism, Carlism from a Irish perspective. I myself am honestly interested in a learning abut politics and economics from a Catholic perspective. I wish to explore the organic state that gets away from Liberal Capitalism and Communism (Materialism). I myself come from the Royalist/ Traditionalist point of view that wants to see a modern state that is rightly order as seen in the writings of the church. Keith Woods gives a good overview of the movement www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHzdVHt9y10If your interested please start the conversation if not have a prayerful and productive day. You do realise that Third Positionism is basically repackaged Strasserism, right? Given that many of those who promote that particular ideology are rabidly anti-Semitic and/or are influenced by the Nazi occultist Julius Evola, I would suggest giving this stuff a wide berth without looking back! Presumably there's no necessary connection between the economic and racial/pagan elements, though? Every "third position" or "third way" I've ever heard about seems like a variety of capitalism to me. It's hard to have a discussion on these matters because I'm never sure what the person means by capitalism and socialism. As for myself I am an economic centrist, perhaps even left-of-centre. |
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