RTÉ's slur at the Incarnation

A few random thoughts on the above topics raised by Seamus and Hilary.

The new archbishop is a safe company man who will mainly facilitate the continuing decline into practical irrelevance of the catholic church. He is apparently sympathetic to Pope Francis 's ambiguous meanderings on homosexuality and thinks deaconesses are cool too. As deaconesses were used primarily to anoint naked women converts in the baptismal rite in the early church we may be about to see many more people turning up to baptisms in the future.

The archbishop of Armagh did a bit of hand wringing instead of directly advocating privitising RTE. If they wish to blaspheme we can't stop them. We can turn it off true but why should we have to pay a tax to promote this poison on pain on imprisonment? The state has no business any more promoting telly programmes. It's culture /news functions could be sold off to a private impartial provider something RTE abandoned decades ago.


I believe getting rid of a state imposed tv tax could be a cause like the water charge that could unite the broad right and those who don't want to pay anyway. We need a victory and this one would frighten the living daylights out of the cultural revolutionaries in RTE. The left have been on the offensive for 60 years. Time to stop them and put them on the defensive.


In relation to protest numbers I think the slot did genuinely anger many people. A half hearted non genuine " some people may have taken offence "apology was read out but the clip remained up. The narrator did apologise independently but the piece stayed up for almost 2 weeks.

If Catholics want to make an impact we should look at how the Irish Islamic community reacted. We should have known Christ and the Virgin Mary are revered by Islam. ( I am well aware of doctrinal differences) I wonder did their well crafted objection which highlighted the tasteless trivilisation of rape and the needless offence to profoundly held beliefs of faith make a much bigger impact? As we know our brave secular blasphemers don't mess with Moslems. A joint protest would have caused people to wake up immediately.

Lest I be accused of cosying up to potential or implied terror tactics the church has cooperated with Islam on matters of common interest over the last 3 pontificates. A good ,although unfortunately named , book on this is Peter Krefts Ecumenical Jihad.

Rather than women deacons, I would be interested in a Christian/Catholic ministry to Muslims. Cato mentioned ecumenical efforts by the last three popes. I also read Submission earlier in the year and was unsettled by it. Recently though I've heard that Muslims are leaving Islam and coming to Christianity. Social media is no doubt a big help. (I'm sure some Muslims are leaving Islam for no religion, or other religions too).

I think that Archbishop Martin (or any Irish bishop) just hasn't had to think about relations with Islam in Ireland until now. Sitting down in public with the Islamic leaders (Eid Croke Park) and then saying we want to hear from women (the new Archbishop-elect)....well that would be one of my first questions - how are we to spread the Gospel to our Muslim neighbours?

I have seen some very Irish looking Moslem females outside the GPO promoting Islam. If anything I d reckon the flow of converts is from (collapsed) Catholicism to Islam. I suspect the lack of strong clear teachings may be one reason why former Christians join Islam.


I sometimes wonder about missions to convert practising Jews and Moslems given the lack of a mission to the tens of millions of ex Catholics. The Church herself doesn't even seem to be overly concerned with the tragic loss of most of the Catholics in the western world.we constantly hear the tired old mantra about the fruits of Vatican II. Our greatest crisis is not Islam. It is not other religions. It's Catholics adopting no religion at all.

We indeed should be trying to convert Muslims to Christianity/Catholicism. I think the confidence of our Catholic Hierarchy in Ireland (and elsewhere) has been so gaslit and undermined by liberalism and the scandals that they are more than happy to keep their heads below the parapet and not attract controversy of any kind - but we know that hiding in the shadows will only further harm the Church.

My only fear is that Muslims who do convert can attract the anger of their ex Muslim friends and family. But having said that, no missionary from St. Paul onwards would have thought in that way, otherwise they would have stayed at home. Also, if we are confident in our faith we should look upon this as saving souls rather than worrying about possible worldly consequences.

I think a Christian ministry to Muslims would interest and attract lukewarm Catholics too. Maybe there are already people doing this work here. The woman I've been watching recently on YouTube (DCCI) has a great knowledge of the Koran and the Bible and is very effective at challenging Muslims about their own knowledge of their religion. She was talking about paradise on a recent video - what women could hope for and so on.