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Post by Ciara Murphy Kelly on Sept 24, 2021 12:03:51 GMT
I believe in civil liberty and equality with support for social justice and a mixed economy. I believe in all those things, too, although I suspect our interpretations might be different in many cases. I think the most important forms of equality are equality under the law and equality of opportunity. If you strive to achieve perfect equality you get into the realm of social engineering and trampling on peoples' basic freedom. People have different aptitudes, capacities and priorities and that has to be respected. I find this hard to believe that you would run a forum like this and believe in civil liberty, equality and social justice. I find it hard that you believe in freedom of religion? Did someone on this group not say conservative catholic don't allow other religions in there counrties. Equality  Well Marriage for LGBTQ+ seems to be a problem for right wingers. On the social justice topic do you support people getting resources, equity, participation, diversity and human rights? |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 24, 2021 13:53:19 GMT
I believe in all those things, too, although I suspect our interpretations might be different in many cases. I think the most important forms of equality are equality under the law and equality of opportunity. If you strive to achieve perfect equality you get into the realm of social engineering and trampling on peoples' basic freedom. People have different aptitudes, capacities and priorities and that has to be respected. I find this hard to believe that you would run a forum like this and believe in civil liberty, equality and social justice. I find it hard that you believe in freedom of religion? Did someone on this group not say conservative catholic don't allow other religions in there counrties. Equality Well Marriage for LGBTQ+ seems to be a problem for right wingers. On the social justice topic do you support people getting resources, equity, participation, diversity and human rights? I believe in freedom of religion and this is what the Catholic Church currently teaches. Admittedly, some Catholics disagree with it and they have some reasonable arguments in terms of what the Church has taught historically. This is a forum so we have different views, and debate them. Yes, I believe in people getting resources, equity, participation, diversity and human rights. Again, I think we might have different interpretations in some ways. I don't think the principle of equality requires gay marriage. Marriage understood as a union between a man and a woman, the core of the family, has always been equally open to everybody. It seems to be extraordinary that you would take an institution which has existed for thousands of years and redefine it according to a current fashion. I think men and women are complimentary in ways that homosexual couples are not, and also that children deserve a mother and a father where possible. It doesn't mean I hate gay people. I don't. I accept that gay people have been treated badly in the past, for instance, criminal prosecution of homosexual acts. I think most people on this forum would agree with that. |
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Post by cato on Sept 24, 2021 14:06:58 GMT
Rather than simply attack each other ( although we can do that too!) Ciara, could you let us know some of your views on politics, culture , what motivates you etc?
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 24, 2021 14:08:46 GMT
And feel free to do so in a new thread, as we're trying to avoid threads getting off-topic.
I'd also be interested in hearing your specific views and beliefs.
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Post by Ciara Murphy Kelly on Sept 24, 2021 14:42:54 GMT
And feel free to do so in a new thread, as we're trying to avoid threads getting off-topic. I'd also be interested in hearing your specific views and beliefs. What thread would you like this on 🤗 |
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Post by Ciara Murphy Kelly on Sept 24, 2021 14:47:26 GMT
And feel free to do so in a new thread, as we're trying to avoid threads getting off-topic. I'd also be interested in hearing your specific views and beliefs. What thread would you like this on or do you want me to do this survey 🤗 |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 24, 2021 15:34:26 GMT
What thread would you like this on or do you want me to do this survey 🤗 Whatever you like. Knock yourself out. (I mean that metaphorically, before I am accused of hate speech...) |
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Well Marriage for LGBTQ+ seems to be a problem for right wingers.
