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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 15, 2017 18:30:14 GMT
He hasn't committed any crime. He is paid to be controversial. Some people don't like his opinion. Therefore he must be sacked? I think he should scream Free Speech and get some senior counsels to sue the pants of Newstalk for sacking him or the very least putting him through an ordeal for speaking his mind. If the right Free speech is not fought for it will cease to mean anything. Perhaps the courts need to explicitly lay down what is permitted rather than a hysterical liberal mob. I don't know whether the sacking was legal - it depends on the terms of his contract in light of Irish employment law. Private sector workers in Ireland have far stronger protections than their counterparts in the US, but this has been eroding as Ireland moves closer to the US model of "flexible working" and "employment at will." George is the canary in the coal mine. The question with much deeper resonance for our purposes is whether public sentiment will allow this high profile figure to go under, or allow the soft persecution to proceed. They didn't really say "boo" when John Waters was harassed or Kevin Myers fired.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 15, 2017 18:43:12 GMT
My elderly and extremely traditional father thinks George Hook was wrong to say what he said, although he thinks the reaction was ridiculous. He asks, "Shouldn't a woman be able to go to a man's room without being afraid of getting raped?" Well, it's a good point. I was more focused on the fact that he explicitly stated the victim was not to blame over and over.
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 15, 2017 18:49:45 GMT
My elderly and extremely traditional father thinks George Hook was wrong to say what he said, although he thinks the reaction was ridiculous. He asks, "Shouldn't a woman be able to go to a man's room without being afraid of getting raped?" Well, it's a good point. I was more focused on the fact that he explicitly stated the victim was not to blame over and over. One should also be able to walk to the 24-hour quickie mart to get ice cream at 2:30 am without getting mugged, but that doesn't make it a wise thing to do.
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Post by cato on Sept 18, 2017 14:34:04 GMT
It also appears from reading various media accounts George was really a grumpy old man and made a fair share of enemies. These recent incidents were right wing contrarians put their feet in their mouths were great opportunities for those they had slighted or annoyed to plunge the dagger into their backs.
It's also a sad sign of the decline in a Christian world view that simple concepts like modesty ,chastity(for both genders) sobriety , responsibility and forgiveness are seen as judgemental or impossible. Another sign of how the decline in faith coarsens all society.
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Post by cato on Sept 18, 2017 14:38:56 GMT
He hasn't committed any crime. He is paid to be controversial. Some people don't like his opinion. Therefore he must be sacked? I think he should scream Free Speech and get some senior counsels to sue the pants of Newstalk for sacking him or the very least putting him through an ordeal for speaking his mind. If the right Free speech is not fought for it will cease to mean anything. Perhaps the courts need to explicitly lay down what is permitted rather than a hysterical liberal mob. I don't know whether the sacking was legal - it depends on the terms of his contract in light of Irish employment law. Private sector workers in Ireland have far stronger protections than their counterparts in the US, but this has been eroding as Ireland moves closer to the US model of "flexible working" and "employment at will." George is the canary in the coal mine. The question with much deeper resonance for our purposes is whether public sentiment will allow this high profile figure to go under, or allow the soft persecution to proceed. They didn't really say "boo" when John Waters was harassed or Kevin Myers fired. I do wonder if some high profile victim of a liberal lynch mob needs to take a constitutional case to vindicate the right to free speech . There is no constitutional right not to be offended so presumably the balance of rights should firmly be on the side of robust free speech. However God knows what invented right not to be upset our supreme court might unearth. You would also want very deep pockets to pay for your legal team down at the four courts.
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Post by cato on Sept 22, 2017 13:19:34 GMT
George has stepped down from his current programme but will be back in a new role in December when presumably things will have calmed down. At least he didn't get a p45.
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 22, 2017 16:07:52 GMT
George has stepped down from his current programme but will be back in a new role in December when presumably things will have calmed down. At least he didn't get a p45. I predict George will be rehabilitated quite quickly, particularly if he also supports the Repeal the 8th campaign. It was a tactical mistake by the Left to attack an ally: Last weekís show was a case in point. George Hook was given a podium from which to spend three or four minutes uninterruptedly making the case for same-sex marriage.
The audience was clearly full of gay activists who loudly applauded whenever George Hook or Colm OíGorman spoke. www.irishcatholic.ie/article/what-abortion-reveals-about-us
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Post by MourningIreland on Oct 6, 2017 11:43:28 GMT
A timely iillustration of the logic employed by the Liberal Left:
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Post by MourningIreland on Oct 6, 2017 12:12:33 GMT
Well, this is an interesting development. I have never heard of Dil Wickremasingh before, but from reading the article it appears she peddles the usual toxic Liberal Leftist identity politics on a Newstalk show called "Global Village." This move by Newstalk suggests they have perhaps looked at what the market research is saying about $$$. Here are a few of the more intelligent comments: From Andyc123 - 18 likes Who's going to lecture me now on Saturdays for having the temerity to be a white, Christian, tax-paying, law abiding, married, father?
Monsoon11 - 21 likes a low profile weekend presenter tries to dictate who’s hired and fired in a company, criticizes the amount of men presenting during the week at the station........ and she’s shocked when they give her the road!
skim500 - 21 likes So she now feels the same way as George Hook. Equality.
redkop - 21 likes She like so many on that station just copy and paste what they hear from the American liberal media.... White men are the problem for everything, just pathetic. And when you dare to question them, they just scream and call names, as they have no reply. So looking forward to George coming back 😊
Michael Mor - 113 likes Good riddance to the shrill queens of Political Correctness and Opinion control.
Many folk are fed up to the back teeth with the so called liberal left instructing every person in the correct formation of opinions.
READ MORE.... www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/dil-wickremasinghe-shocked-and-deeply-disappointed-as-her-newstalk-show-is-cancelled-36201338.html#comments
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Post by cato on Oct 6, 2017 20:11:20 GMT
Using western terms like Hubris and Nemesis to describe the fall of Dil would be an obvious example of phallocentric colonial sexist orientalist hate speech. So I will use a more inclusive term. Karma.
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