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Post by servantofthechief on Jun 13, 2017 17:37:01 GMT
Can someone explain how critics of Islam are sometimes branded as racist? There are arab moslems , african moslems, asian moslems ,american moslems ,Irish moslems ,some of whom were white privileged catholic males before they converted to Islam. Can you change race? Its a rhetorical tactic meant to shame the critic into silence and to create a chilling effect on discourse, logic is irrelevant. It is incredibly effective but its slowly losing its power. A lot of young people simply do not care about being called racist these days for better or for worse.
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Post by ClassicalRepublican on Jun 13, 2017 22:01:47 GMT
The problem with Islam is this:
Doctrinally, it states explicitly that the way to salvation is unclear. Leading a pious Muslim life doesn't guarantee access to Paradise after death.
However, elsewhere the doctrine does outline one certain way of entry to paradise: martyrdom in defence of Islam.
Imagine being a repentant reprobate faced with this.
When you understand this, you can understand things like radicals construing by by hook or by crook, plausible-sounding scenarios that depict the religion of Islam as being in mortal peril; they are incentivised to do so. You can also understand actions like the mujahideen in the Afghan-Soviet war situating their encampments out in the open where the Russians could easily find them and send them to paradise.
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Post by cato on Jun 17, 2017 13:09:39 GMT
The recent polygamy case in Dublin ruled only the the first marriage (of two)of the Lebanese gentleman concerned was valid in Ireland.
However ... Mr Justice Frank Clarke said there was a strong imperative that urgent attention be given to the question of whether or not legislation should be enacted.
Perhaps this could happen when future anti-Islamophobia legislation permits sharia law in Ireland ?
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Post by MourningIreland on Jun 17, 2017 15:39:12 GMT
The recent polygamy case in Dublin ruled only the the first marriage (of two)of the Lebanese gentleman concerned was valid in Ireland. However ... Mr Justice Frank Clarke said there was a strong imperative that urgent attention be given to the question of whether or not legislation should be enacted. Perhaps this could happen when future anti-Islamophobia legislation permits sharia law in Ireland ? Yes, this is part of what this is all going, to take away any curbs on "religious freedom." Ivan Karamazov was right - if there is no God then everything is permitted.
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Post by cato on Jun 19, 2017 12:53:56 GMT
In relation to last night's cowardly attack on a London mosque and the murder of a man using a van I wonder will the usual apologists for terrorism ask questions like; Why did someone do this? Who oppressed or frightened him? What can we do to prevent terrorphobic retaliation and outrage against the terrorist community? My first thought was where did he get the idea of using a van to butcher innocent people?
Interestingly 37% of people investigated for suspected terrorist activities in the UK are white men! Incredibly London now has a minority white population.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 19, 2017 13:17:29 GMT
I hadn't actually seen this news story until now. Someone mentioned a van attack to me but I didn't realize it was on a mosque. That's sickening.
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Post by cato on Jun 20, 2017 10:34:58 GMT
A lecturer Dr James Carr from the university of Limerick is giving the usual unchallenged rant on Islamophobia on RTE this morning . Lots of use of words like discourse and diversity. He's calling for Hate Crime laws naturally which appear to mean anything that annoys or upsets moslems and which should be punishable by law.
The lecturer was upset the media didn't immediately brand the attack on the London Mosque as terrorism! More propaganda from our state supported media . Remember if you don t pay your TV tax of €166 you may go to jail.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 20, 2017 11:02:15 GMT
This concept of "hate crimes" and "hate speech" is one of the most dangerous things in our society at the moment, one I think we should all push against with all our might.
I might rename this forum "The Irish Hate Speech Forum". (Not really.)
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Post by cato on Jun 20, 2017 17:35:54 GMT
It crossed my mind during his monologue,( I can t describe it as a discussion as nothing was challenged )that it will be views that are aired here that will be outlawed and it won t matter a bit to any real fascist who likes to beat up foreigners.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 20, 2017 20:19:44 GMT
Yes, it's like all the anti-racist campaigns we see. Just think of all the racists who must look at them and think: "I must stop being racist".
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Post by MourningIreland on Jun 21, 2017 9:04:24 GMT
A lecturer Dr James Carr from the university of Limerick is giving the usual unchallenged rant on Islamophobia on RTE this morning . Lots of use of words like discourse and diversity. He's calling for Hate Crime laws naturally which appear to mean anything that annoys or upsets moslems and which should be punishable by law. The lecturer was upset the media didn't immediately brand the attack on the London Mosque as terrorism! More propaganda from our state supported media . Remember if you don t pay your TV tax of €166 you may go to jail. It would be interesting to find out where the Hate and Hostility Research Group at UL gets its funding from, and whether Dr. Carr views Fr. Jacques Hamel's murder as a hate crime or, closer to home, his views on the recent desecration of a Catholic altar in Longford. ulsites.ul.ie/hhrg/They have published a book "Out of the Shadows: Legislating for Hate Crime in Ireland" www.ulsites.ul.ie/hhrg/publications-2015
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Post by MourningIreland on Jun 21, 2017 9:09:06 GMT
This concept of "hate crimes" and "hate speech" is one of the most dangerous things in our society at the moment, one I think we should all push against with all our might. I might rename this forum "The Irish Hate Speech Forum". (Not really.) I agree - it's the mechanism by which the Far Left will advance their anti-religion agenda and turn the West Marxist, all done under the cover of "human rights" law. Who in their right mind would object to the importance of "human rights"?
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Post by MourningIreland on Jun 21, 2017 9:10:25 GMT
It crossed my mind during his monologue,( I can t describe it as a discussion as nothing was challenged )that it will be views that are aired here that will be outlawed and it won t matter a bit to any real fascist who likes to beat up foreigners. ^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jun 21, 2017 13:30:29 GMT
But Cato, Cato, Cato...it's reading this forum that will MAKE people go out and beat up foreigners and Muslims! Don't you see?
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Post by cato on Jun 21, 2017 13:54:30 GMT
I really think you are guilty of Sneerism -laughing or mocking oppressed minorities. This too should be criminalised. You better watch out!
One of the many many positive aspects of sharia law is the restoration of slavery. This ancient practice was suppressed by arrogant white male christians at gun point. I presume we will respect the rights of people of diverse culture to own slaves in Ireland in the near future.
Now its my understanding moslems can't be enslaved but pagans ,jews and christians can. I am looking forward to having my own household of slaves to attend to my every whim. Imagine dictating posts on this site to a scribe who will type it all out for me. Bliss indeed.
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