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Post by cato on Mar 9, 2019 22:44:44 GMT
It has emerged today an Irish woman who served in the Irish Army including working on the government VIP jet with Bertie Aherne has also ended up as an Isis fighter and is now a prisoner of the Kurds. The Kurds have asked for help from the West in looking after these prisoners but they have been ignored to date.
This new case involves an Irish born woman , born Catholic but who failed to find meaning in modern Catholicism. After dabbling in Buddhism and various new age alternatives she ended up in one of the most perverse and authentically fascist death cults of our time. I have noticed Irish looking women from time to time wearing the Islamic scarf. In a former age many of them would have embraced religious life. Now they find the stark claims of Islam attractive.
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Post by Antaine on Mar 11, 2019 8:25:31 GMT
I might be wrong, but I think it is more than that. It's a curious thing how Islam can gain so many followers despite its current reputation, though I do simultaneously think that it's good people can look at it (or anything) without being completely blinded by said reputation. Still, it's something that should be kept in mind, and it makes one wonder what draws people to it. I don't think we'll ever know, as I honestly don't believe the reasoning uttered by many about "the beauty of Islam/the Quran", etc, as it seems so lifeless when they say it, almost as if it's just what they're supposed to say.
I do know from some people that conspiracy theories have a lot to do with some people becoming adherents. If anyone here knows what the Arrivals series is, you might understand. Basically a series of Islamic conspiracy theories in the vain of the usual NWO stuff, but with an Islamic perspective. They were quite popular in the conspiracy theory scene back in the day. To be fair though, the people behind them weren't jihadist types (at least not publicly), and some videos touch on a war with the Anti-Christ in which Muslims and Christians would supposedly fight together as allies (something which I believe appears in the prophecies of a Catholic mystic as well, about Christian and Heathen fighting Christian and Heathen due to the chaos and confusion caused). However, in one video they talked about the enemies beings Jew, which was later edited with captions to be "Zionist Jews", so make of that what you will.
Maybe I'm being a bit too harsh, and these people genuinely feel they've had some connection - and as I say, it's good that people are willing to look at something with fresh eyes despite any possible preconceptions - but it still makes one wonder, more so when some of these people go to fight for jihadists.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Mar 11, 2019 10:02:18 GMT
Now they find the stark claims of Islam attractive. I think that's the essence of the thing. Islam has the courage of its convictions, while at the moment the Catholic Church is too busy apologising for itself and trying to accommodate itself to the world. Few people will find that attractive. I was in a shop called World of Spices in Talbot Street over the weekend, which has a halal butcher counter. There was also a sweets counter, and there was a sign up saying that the attendant was praying and would be back in a few minutes. It made me rather envious.
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Post by cato on Mar 11, 2019 19:24:25 GMT
Now they find the stark claims of Islam attractive. I think that's the essence of the thing. Islam has the courage of its convictions, while at the moment the Catholic Church is too busy apologising for itself and trying to accommodate itself to the world. Few people will find that attractive. I was in a shop called World of Spices in Talbot Street over the weekend, which has a halal butcher counter. There was also a sweets counter, and there was a sign up saying that the attendant was praying and would be back in a few minutes. It made me rather envious. I often wonder where the young people go who in former times would have flocked to catholic religious life and the priesthood. I have no doubt that many of the Repeal zealots would in a different Ireland have followed Catholic vocations. Youthful idealism has to go somewhere. The church no longer taps into that idealism nor does it inspire. Many of the great tyrannies ; communism , Nazism and the Maoist red guards tapped into youthful zeal. Any serious religious young person must be looking at the confident claims of islam and contrasting them with the current leftist politically correct mediocity that claims to be Christian.
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Post by Tomas on Mar 12, 2019 11:20:35 GMT
I think that's the essence of the thing. Islam has the courage of its convictions, while at the moment the Catholic Church is too busy apologising for itself and trying to accommodate itself to the world. Few people will find that attractive. I was in a shop called World of Spices in Talbot Street over the weekend, which has a halal butcher counter. There was also a sweets counter, and there was a sign up saying that the attendant was praying and would be back in a few minutes. It made me rather envious. I often wonder where the young people go who in former times would have flocked to catholic religious life and the priesthood. I have no doubt that many of the Repeal zealots would in a different Ireland have followed Catholic vocations. Youthful idealism has to go somewhere. The church no longer taps into that idealism nor does it inspire. Many of the great tyrannies ; communism , Nazism and the Maoist red guards tapped into youthful zeal. Any serious religious young person must be looking at the confident claims of islam and contrasting them with the current leftist politically correct mediocity that claims to be Christian. There are always potential adherents. What makes Islam special might be something to do with their stubbornly selfpromotion of status as some kind of powerful underdog? Only my guess. Having participated in an extremely active, and sometimes rampant, online "Muslim Christian dialogue group" I have found their major difficulties with Christian Faith comes down to the very basics. Trinity and God´s Incarnation are two real stumbling stones.
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Post by assisi on Mar 12, 2019 11:51:23 GMT
I think that's the essence of the thing. Islam has the courage of its convictions, while at the moment the Catholic Church is too busy apologising for itself and trying to accommodate itself to the world. Few people will find that attractive. I was in a shop called World of Spices in Talbot Street over the weekend, which has a halal butcher counter. There was also a sweets counter, and there was a sign up saying that the attendant was praying and would be back in a few minutes. It made me rather envious. I often wonder where the young people go who in former times would have flocked to catholic religious life and the priesthood. I have no doubt that many of the Repeal zealots would in a different Ireland have followed Catholic vocations. Youthful idealism has to go somewhere. The church no longer taps into that idealism nor does it inspire. Many of the great tyrannies ; communism , Nazism and the Maoist red guards tapped into youthful zeal. Any serious religious young person must be looking at the confident claims of islam and contrasting them with the current leftist politically correct mediocity that claims to be Christian. Although Islam may be appealing, I've read elsewhere that many young Muslims lose their faith quickly when they interact with strongly secular societies. There is no doubt that people are attracted to organisations that have a faith that is confident. Many Protestants for example, have converted to Catholicism because of it's rigour and tradition having been dismayed by the direction of their previous denomination that was all for adapting to fashionable cultural movements. A traditional Catholicism, that stands for universal Christian truths, would be much lauded in these unsettling times if she stood her ground and spoke fearlessly. Unfortunately we hear more about accommodation of sin rather than truth spoken with mercy. We would be better served as a smaller but more orthodox church. In Ireland with friends like Mary McAleese, the ACP and the timidity of the Irish clerical hierarchy, we appear unsure and apologetic. Get rid of the Theodore McCarrick types, stop accommodating anti-Christian fashions and stop delving into globalist politics at the expense of souls, and a turnaround will occur.
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Post by cato on Mar 12, 2019 18:30:06 GMT
There are always potential adherents. What makes Islam special might be something to do with their stubbornly selfpromotion of status as some kind of powerful underdog? Only my guess. Having participated in an extremely active, and sometimes rampant, online "Muslim Christian dialogue group" I have found their major difficulties with Christian Faith comes down to the very basics. Trinity and God´s Incarnation are two real stumbling stones. [/quote]
Tomas this is precisely what Christian apologists for Islam ignore. Islam has a very different view of God , Christ's divinity , his death and resurrection (Christ only appeared to die on the cross in Islam) and as Pope Benedict pointed out in Regensburg a radically different view of morality and the will of God.
Belloc saw Islam as an extreme Arian heresy. There is some merit in this view. Islam and Christianity do share some common ground and should cooperate on certain issues on pragmatic grounds. We need to be very aware however that Islam is not a friend of Christianity.
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Post by Tomas on Mar 13, 2019 9:57:19 GMT
There are always potential adherents. What makes Islam special might be something to do with their stubbornly selfpromotion of status as some kind of powerful underdog? Only my guess. Having participated in an extremely active, and sometimes rampant, online "Muslim Christian dialogue group" I have found their major difficulties with Christian Faith comes down to the very basics. Trinity and God´s Incarnation are two real stumbling stones. Tomas this is precisely what Christian apologists for Islam ignore. Islam has a very different view of God , Christ's divinity , his death and resurrection (Christ only appeared to die on the cross in Islam) and as Pope Benedict pointed out in Regensburg a radically different view of morality and the will of God. Belloc saw Islam as an extreme Arian heresy. There is some merit in this view. Islam and Christianity do share some common ground and should cooperate on certain issues on pragmatic grounds. We need to be very aware however that Islam is not a friend of Christianity. [/quote] Yes indeed. By what I have seen and heard so far there are shocking statements of misunderstanding all the time, so much it can hardly be unintentional, in that mentioned forum as well as elsewhere. The glimpses of hope I still seek are only those "certain issues on pragmatic grounds". Islam politicians or intellectuals in the West could be - or, perhaps could be - allies against State promotion of gender destruction and family disorientation, if nothing else?
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Post by Séamus on Mar 16, 2019 7:50:47 GMT
Massacres are an horrific thing in any circumstance; sympathies must go out to the followers of Islam gunned down in New Zealand. And it feels so contradictory when it's seen that the western birth-rate had become an obsession with the gunman, so many other ways that a young man can bring life into western society, without seeing death as an answer. An organist-friend had just returned from South Island and mentioned (an indication of how many Middle Eastern immigrants they have there, but also of the fact that not all are Muslim) that the owner of the principal organ-builders in the region had grown up playing in his (Protestant denomination) church which has now been sold to the Copts. As their music is almost exclusively a cappella the old organ lies dormant until this same gentleman performs an annual fundraising recital for the new Coptic congregation.
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Post by cato on Mar 20, 2019 11:38:47 GMT
Last Friday's horrific cowardly murders have sadly been used by many on the left to demonise anyone who has ever expressed any reservation about the wisdom of mass emigration.
When an Islamic terrorist group kills we are told to remain calm and to remember more people die from being trod on by elephants than die from terrorism blah blah blah.
The perpetrator of this savage buthchery seems to be an "eco-facist" who explicitly condemns conservatives as being ineffectual. Embittered disturbed individuals can cause extreme harm by taking advantage of freedom and abusing it.
There is no international terror network supporting him. There are no clerics advocating a new crusade. There are no oil rich governments funding radical Christian terrorists.
The media yet again have shown their outrageous double standards.
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Post by Séamus on Mar 20, 2019 23:58:34 GMT
Last Friday's horrific cowardly murders have sadly been used by many on the left to demonise anyone who has ever expressed any reservation about the wisdom of mass emigration. When an Islamic terrorist group kills we are told to remain calm and to remember more people die from being trod on by elephants than die from terrorism blah blah blah. The perpetrator of this savage buthchery seems to be an "eco-facist" who explicitly condemns conservatives as being ineffectual. Embittered disturbed individuals can cause extreme harm by taking advantage of freedom and abusing it. There is no international terror network supporting him. There are no clerics advocating a new crusade. There are no oil rich governments funding radical Christian terrorists. The media yet again have shown their outrageous double standards. The Turkish president has come out with a bizarre diatribe in response to Christchurch. It's interesting that there were disagreements between the NZ police and the victims' families concerning the release of the bodies from the start.
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Post by cato on Mar 21, 2019 14:10:10 GMT
The Turkish president has come out with a bizarre diatribe in response to Christchurch. It's interesting that there were disagreements between the NZ police and the victims' families concerning the release of the bodies from the start. [/quote]
President Ergogan has been busy building up Turkey as a new Ottoman Empire. He has encouraged Turks in Germany not to integrate. He has used the horrific video footage of the actual massacre in Christchurch as election propaganda. He has said anti Muslim Australians will meet the same fate as the Australian army at Gallipoli where 1000s died in terrible combat.
3 Turks were murdered in New Zealand. A Turkish criminal and wanted rapist shot 3 people in Holland on Monday but the media were largely silent on the background and motives of that Moslem killer . Business as usual then.
BBC news today ( Thursday) are saying a terrorist motive is being considered. Good there is no rush to judge. Time for calm heads.
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Post by Séamus on Mar 23, 2019 4:04:12 GMT
New Zealand's Crusaders rugby team are apparently thinking of changing their name now to avoid offence to Muslims.
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Post by Séamus on Mar 23, 2019 4:04:41 GMT
New Zealand's Crusaders rugby team are apparently thinking of changing their name now to avoid offence to Muslims.
One Sunday paper report last week possibly shed a bit of light on the gunman's psyche, mentioning that his parents had seperated just as his father was degenerating from a painful asbestos-induced disease. The father subsequently suicided in some horrific way, his son and daughter finding the body. This may have given an excessive white-males-as-victims mentality. And yet the daily newspaper, usually more reliable, simply said that his father died of the disease- but this could be a deliberate streamlining of events, possibly so as not to appear to victimise the killer.
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Post by assisi on Mar 23, 2019 10:15:46 GMT
New Zealand's Crusaders rugby team are apparently thinking of changing their name now to avoid offence to Muslims. . Yes, good move. And while they're at it they may as well try to cease existing altogether as they are just a damn nuisance being mostly white and male.
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