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Post by MourningIreland on Jul 3, 2017 21:51:07 GMT
The vicious anti-male sexism of the "Repeal" movement is disgusting:
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Post by MourningIreland on Jul 3, 2017 21:54:28 GMT
And it gets worse....beneath Roisin Ingle's tweet another tweeter states: "That is some f#cking picture. The absolute state."
NB: It's unclear to me whether this tweet refers to the gentleman carrying the picture of Our Lady of Guadalupe or another picture of men marching....if you click the link you can have a look. Either way, I find his comment sickening:
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 3, 2017 22:05:55 GMT
Indeed I heard one of the counter-demonstrators at the Rally for Life on Saturday shouting: "You're a MAN!" at one older gentleman who was arguing with them, as though that invalidated everything he said.
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Post by MourningIreland on Jul 3, 2017 22:06:52 GMT
I guess anti-male sexism is okay if it suits a political agenda:
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 3, 2017 22:25:44 GMT
The whole abortion debate is so maddening because the ONLY RELEVANT QUESTION is whether the foetus, embryo, fertilized egg, whatever, is a human being or not.
If it is a human being, there is obviously more than one body involved, more than one person involved, and all the rhetoric about "my body, my business" is missing the point.
I can't even understand the claim that "abortion is a complicated subject". In essence, it's not. In essence, it's about the most straightforward moral issue there is.
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Post by MourningIreland on Jul 3, 2017 22:31:31 GMT
The whole abortion debate is so maddening because the ONLY RELEVANT QUESTION is whether the foetus, embryo, fertilized egg, whatever, is a human being or not. If it is a human being, there is obviously more than one body involved, more than one person involved, and all the rhetoric about "my body, my business" is missing the point. I can't even understand the claim that "abortion is a complicated subject". In essence, it's not. In essence, it's about the most straightforward moral issue there is. The Left aren't interested in using logic here. They are trying to manipulate the electorate by controlling the narrative. One of the Alinsky tactics they are using is divide and conquer, in this case the demonisation and ridiculing of pro-life men. I really hope they are overplaying their hand here. |
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Post by MourningIreland on Jul 4, 2017 11:12:55 GMT
I am changing the title of this thread to "Bigotry & the Repeal Campaign," since research is showing that the problem goes way beyond misandry.
Both ageism and religious bigotry in this tweet. Marchers described as "male pensioner Jesus freaks":
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Post by MourningIreland on Jul 4, 2017 11:24:58 GMT
More anti-Catholic bigotry. Here they are mocking a rosary procession with a statue of Our Lady of Fatima:
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Post by MourningIreland on Jul 4, 2017 12:23:21 GMT
She seems to be suggesting that a group of males expressing a political opinion and exercising their right of assembly and free speech is prima facie "misogyny." Does she believe that males by virtue of their gender have no right to a political opinion that diverges from #Repealthe8th?
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 4, 2017 12:40:40 GMT
This annoyed me so much I was going to comment, and I had indeed written a comment. Then I decided I better not go down that route of crashing people's Twitter accounts, even when they have put a hashtag out for the world to see. You could spend your life doing it.
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Post by MourningIreland on Jul 4, 2017 12:45:32 GMT
This annoyed me so much I was going to comment, and I had indeed written a comment. Then I decided I better not go down that route of crashing people's Twitter accounts, even when they have put a hashtag out for the world to see. You could spend your life doing it. Yes, you could spend all day. I think it's important to expose them. I cannot document all of it, but this thread already gives a good overview. I'll update it when I can. |
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Post by servantofthechief on Jul 4, 2017 14:05:49 GMT
Double down and do not apologise. They will never give you the light of day nor will they attempt to reason with you. So do not even validate their arguments, or try to justify yourself, instead demand they justify themselves to you, flip the script on them.
Them: "You're a man!"
You: "You're a murderer!"
Perhaps a bit hyperbolic, but cuts to the heart of the matter, I am done with this bullsh*t. Hit them where it hurts, in their feelings which is all that matters to these people.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 4, 2017 14:52:53 GMT
Totally agree with not apologizing. I think conservatives have to choose between a "conciliation model" and a "confrontation model", and I am one hundred per cent in favour of the confrontation model. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain. I wrote a blog post about this some time back, the blog post can be read here but it's pretty long. Here is the essence of it: BEGINS We should always be kind to people. I don't think we should always be kind to ideas. In fact, I think we should be pretty ruthless to bad and dangerous and destructive ideas. I think that it's not only permissible, but often even necessary, to resort to polemic, invective, scorn, ridicule and animosity when we find ourselves confronted with evil ideas. Not when we are debating with people who are genuinely open-minded, but when we find ourselves facing an implacable enemy. Political correctness, for instance, deserves no quarter. Using terms like 'LGBT', or referring to a man as 'she', or being cornered into delivering strings of apologies ("I absolute think that discrimination is wrong, nobody is more horrified by discrimination than me") is NOT wise. You may think you are being urbane or temperate, but you are in fact being conditioned, in pursuance of a very conscious strategy on the part of your opponents. Ideas matter, and bad ideas deserve our hostility. ENDS |
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Post by cato on Jul 6, 2017 22:46:20 GMT
I normally try to be polite and courteous as it's the nearest thing to chivalry we still have.
Last week I turned on a young female chugger collecting for Amnesty. I got quite cross and told her I objected to their propaganda campaign to remove the human rights of unborn Irish citizens.She looked shocked and it may have been my tone rather than what I said that surprised her.
I felt bad about it afterwards as I normally just smile , bite my tongue and walk on but I think it is time this evil movement which takes over public spaces to evangelise is challenged for what it is. Politeness is sometimes weakness.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Jul 6, 2017 23:24:45 GMT
I keep HOPING that an Amnesty chugger will engage me, but they never do.
My plan: to let them talk for ages and ages and then ask them what the most important right is.
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